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nerdmann
10 years ago

Why a team would keep the same audibles for a whole season little alone for several seasons doesn't even make sense. Teams from the same division will pick them up after a few times.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Yeah, that's unreal.
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Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Why a team would keep the same audibles for a whole season little alone for several seasons doesn't even make sense. Teams from the same division will pick them up after a few times.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



This doesn't make sense because the pre-season audibles were scrapped and there was an article explaining that they were using all new audibles this year.
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all_about_da_packers
10 years ago

This doesn't make sense because the pre-season audibles were scrapped and there was an article explaining that they were using all new audibles this year.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I'd say it wasn't hard for Philbin to watch tapes and see the new audible signals and subsequent play, and then match those with the calls used while he was the OC with the Packers.

Based on some of the jumps the d-linemen were getting, it definitely looked like they knew the snap count Rodgers was using as well.
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evad04
10 years ago

I'd say it wasn't hard for Philbin to watch tapes and see the new audible signals and subsequent play, and then match those with the calls used while he was the OC with the Packers.

Based on some of the jumps the d-linemen were getting, it definitely looked like they knew the snap count Rodgers was using as well.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 



Not how I saw it. I couldn't even count the number of times where A-Rod snapped it with just one second left on the play clock. That's going to give the defensive line an easy jump. It happened a lot. After I noticed it a few times, I was watching for it every play.

I understand taking your time, making pre-snap reads and protection calls -- but mix it up a bit. Don't keep snapping it with a second left.
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all_about_da_packers
10 years ago

Not how I saw it. I couldn't even count the number of times where A-Rod snapped it with just one second left on the play clock. That's going to give the defensive line an easy jump. It happened a lot. After I noticed it a few times, I was watching for it every play.

I understand taking your time, making pre-snap reads and protection calls -- but mix it up a bit. Don't keep snapping it with a second left.

Originally Posted by: evad04 



Great catch; I did not focus on how much time was remaining on the clock.

I wonder, though, how much of the late snaps were Rodgers needing time to adjust to the checks the D was making off his audibles.
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evad04
10 years ago

Great catch; I did not focus on how much time was remaining on the clock.

I wonder, though, how much of the late snaps were Rodgers needing time to adjust to the checks the D was making off his audibles.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 



Could be as well. Number of times you'd see Miami show blitz, then Rodgers make check, then box clears up a bit, then Rodgers makes another check. Talk about a chess game.
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dfosterf
10 years ago
We are getting far more sophisticated. Jerry Kramer used to tell the opposing defense we were running our sweep and there is nothing they could do to stop it.

We are practically CIA operatives in comparison. 😆 As a fellow sod-buster from Wisconsin, I like to keep things simple.

(To the younger generation, a sod-buster is virtually identical to a red-neck, but has no hills. )


We still do self-effacing humor here, or no?
beast
10 years ago

Why a team would keep the same audibles for a whole season little alone for several seasons doesn't even make sense. Teams from the same division will pick them up after a few times.

Originally Posted by: wpr 

One of my favorite plays is when Favre knew a vet CB knew a certain audible... and he told the WR, ignore the audibles on this snap... so he signaled an audible of a slant route and the CB aggressively tried to jump the route when Favre pumped faked it... and the WR did as instructed and ignored the audible and ran the called go route for an easy TD as the CB broke on the fake slant.

Not how I saw it. I couldn't even count the number of times where A-Rod snapped it with just one second left on the play clock. That's going to give the defensive line an easy jump. It happened a lot. After I noticed it a few times, I was watching for it every play.

I understand taking your time, making pre-snap reads and protection calls -- but mix it up a bit. Don't keep snapping it with a second left.

Originally Posted by: evad04 

I didn't noticed it as much today... but I have noticed that in past games. A number of the snaps coming with one or two second left on the clock...

And the Dolphins RDE got one GREAT jump based off the snap coming when Rodgers foot hit the ground (or at least that's what the announcer said).
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evad04
10 years ago

One of my favorite plays is when Favre knew a vet CB knew a certain audible... and he told the WR, ignore the audibles on this snap... so he signaled an audible of a slant route and the CB aggressively tried to jump the route when Favre pumped faked it... and the WR did as instructed and ignored the audible and ran the called go route for an easy TD as the CB broke on the fake slant.

I didn't noticed it as much today... but I have noticed that in past games. A number of the snaps coming with one or two second left on the clock...

And the Dolphins RDE got one GREAT jump based off the snap coming when Rodgers foot hit the ground (or at least that's what the announcer said).

Originally Posted by: beast 



Lost in all the recent years of Favre loathing is what a helluva QB he was. Didn't just do the gun-slinger shtick. He was a pretty intelligent QB. Not to say he always played that way, but I feel he's undervalued as a student of the game.

As far as the Dolphins today -- I definitely took notice. I might be missing something -- and I know there's a ton that A-Rod does before the line -- but I don't see why you'd want to give a good pass rushing team any advantage. If you snap the ball with one second left, there's little guesswork.

William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
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