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10 years ago
For a long time I have not been real happy with the rules for a safety. The rules were created when the NFL was a run first league. When there were not so many rules favoring the passing game. When the field could often be a quagmire of mud or at least had a greater resemblance to a cow pasture than a football field.

The owners have made so many changes to the rules why not have the team that got sacked kick from the 35 instead of the 20? As it stands teams the team that gets the 2 points for the sack will end up with a FG or TD as well. That is a bit more than what the original rule makers perceived.
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musccy
10 years ago
The rules have favored the offense so much in recent years, why take away more from the defense? It's so damn hard to get a safety as is, I have no problem with rewarding a team that's able to pull it off.
beast
10 years ago

I HATE the safety rules... I mean it's the hardest way to score, yet puts the least amount of points on the scoreboard? That's compete BS! I mean even a FG is worth more than a safety!...


I think safeties should be worth four points and then the offense team has to a kick it to the defensive team...

Or (and I think I prefer this idea) just go ahead and make a safety equal a touch down and the defensive team gets 6 points and a PAT chance and then kick it off.


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nerdmann
10 years ago
We shouldn't have been penalized for making a good play on the INT.

First of all, no one touched him, how is he down? Second of all, momentum carried him into the end zone. Ball should have been at the 20.
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beast
10 years ago

We shouldn't have been penalized for making a good play on the INT.

First of all, no one touched him, how is he down? Second of all, momentum carried him into the end zone. Ball should have been at the 20.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



He gained possession of the ball at the 1 yard line... and then momentum carried him into the end zone and then he was touched. As I see it, it's 1 yard line or a safety and that shouldn't be a safety...
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warhawk
10 years ago

He gained possession of the ball at the 1 yard line... and then momentum carried him into the end zone and then he was touched. As I see it, it's 1 yard line or a safety and that shouldn't be a safety...

Originally Posted by: beast 



Why can't it be a touchback? To down the ball when the player wasn't touched is contrary to all the other rules. It just seems weird to me that a player is never down until touched by an opposing player while on the ground except in this case.

If he's touched at the 1 while down it's at the 1 but if he's not touched at the 1 and rolls into the end zone and touched it still goes back to the 1. I guess what bothers me about the this is the offensive player or players have an opportunity to down the player before he goes into the end zone so IMO if the defensive players momentum takes them into the end zone it should be a touchback.

That would be consistent with the rules of the game.

I might also add the rule is contrary to the touchback rules when downing a punt. If the ball is carried into the endzone by a players momentum that is a touchback.

I guess I just never knew there was a rule where a player with the ball is actually considered down without ever being touched. It was a hell of a play and a hell of a catch and regardless of the safety it penalized the team greatly and there is no other rule remotely close to this.
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beast
10 years ago

Why can't it be a touchback? To down the ball when the player wasn't touched is contrary to all the other rules.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 


It can't be a touchback because he gained possession of the ball before making it into the end zone...

He WAS touched... IN THE END ZONE! After gaining possession BEFORE the end zone.

So it's either a Safety or the one yard line... I'll take the one yard line over giving up a Safety right away...


IMO if the defensive players momentum takes them into the end zone it should be a touchback.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



That's not how it works... it's all about where you gain possession... other wise what's to say a defensive players at the 5 doesn't want to return it and pretends his momentum takes it to the endzone?
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