O D Lines have problems !

Smokey
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10 years ago

The Offensive and Defensive lines are in trouble, Why ? Post your opinions here. [boxing]

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

10 years ago

Packers Tackle rankings with the rest of the league and they were 57th and 66th out of 66 prior to this game. That didn't include Bryan Bulaga.

Sure seems the Packers are trying to load up the line to protect Aaron Rodgers. I would rather the Packers give more shallow route, quick throw options than take WR off the field in favor of TE's staying in to help the OL.

K_Buz
Member

10 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Quick hitters to the RB's would be a nice thing to see as well.

evad04
Member

10 years ago

Defensive line did fine. Datone penetrated on a number of plays. The Detroit offense scored all of 10 points. Defense wasn't close to the problem. They wore down late, but they were on the field the entire second half.

The offensive line did nothing in the run game. Drops by Boykin and Cobb. Rodgers missed some throws, notably the 4th and 5 to Jordy on the last possession. RBs missed pass blocking assignments. Just an absolutely horrid offensive performance.

Very disappointed in the offense. That was putrid.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

10 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Aaron wants to go deep to Jordy.

The defensive line has actually impressed me. As you may recall I was skeptical of the "smaller, quicker" philosophy.

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musccy
Veteran Member

10 years ago

Aaron wants to go deep to Jordy.

The defensive line has actually impressed me. As you may recall I was skeptical of the "smaller, quicker" philosophy.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

...as was I. For the majority of the past 6-7 quarters, the DLine has played pretty well, and even v. Seattle I felt we generated some pass rush with our front 7.

beast
Select Member

10 years ago

The Offensive and Defensive lines are in trouble, Why ? Post your opinions here. [boxing]

Originally Posted by: Smokey

Because they're getting beat by the other team ... but on offense everyone seems worse than normal right now, other than Nelson, including Rodgers.

Of defense the DL does seem to be playing better and improving...

Sure seems the Packers are trying to load up the line to protect Aaron Rodgers. I would rather the Packers give more shallow route, quick throw options than take WR off the field in favor of TE's staying in to help the OL.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I remember Rodgers stating in the past that he rather have more receiving options than more blockers. But maybe the more receiving options just aren't stepping up?

During the game I was thinking I'd like to see someone in the middle run a straight go route to distract the Safeties from the edges... I was thinking Nelson on the edge and someone up the middle might make a Safety make a choice and Rodgers might have the other option one on one.

Smokey
Veteran Member Topic Starter

10 years ago

The offensive and defensive lines are the core of all other efforts. If you don't know that, then you just don't know football. You can't run or pass or defend the run or rush a QB trying to pass without good line play.

That said , this thread is here to discuss Why the Packers O/D-Lines are so bad. I believe that the Packers have just not kept pace with what other teams are doing. We are being outplayed because we are being out manned . Their bouncing our linemen around like they were playing a bad college team. The players are doing their best, but they're just being out muscled . It's a personal problem.

K_Buz
Member

10 years ago

That said , this thread is here to discuss Why the Packers O/D-Lines are so bad. I believe that the Packers have just not kept pace with what other teams are doing. We are being outplayed because we are being out manned . Their bouncing our linemen around like they were playing a bad college team. The players are doing their best, but they're just being out muscled . It's a personal problem.

Originally Posted by: Smokey

I don't necessarily agree. I believe it's a coaching/prep issue.

evad04
Member

10 years ago

#10

I honestly don't understand why we're talking about the defense at all right now.

William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."

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