I know Dom Capers, Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson spend a lot of time watching film, but I'm beginning to think Green Bay's defensive coordinator, head coach and GM close...

PackerUpdate  wrote:

As a defense you got to teach them to attack and/or contain... watching this it looks like they're trying to contain... which I find interesting since I thought they were suppose to be going to more of an attack approach (and seeming did as least up front)... but on the outside looks like contain... which being 3rd and short was the wrong thing to do in the video it shows.

But anyways I'm wondering if the coaches will ask them to attack more on the outsides as well... of course Hawk was probably just thinking he couldn't keep up with the guy one on one in the open field and so tried to contain but still... would of been cool to see him charge the guy... and either made the tackle for an awesome play or miss the tackle and blend in with all the other missed tackles that night.

Originally Posted by: beast 

Hmmmmmmm

"Team tackling, as Packers defensive coordinator Dom Capers calls it, demands each player maintain proper leverage. Against temptation, they must stay true to their assignment. The goal is to tackle in confined boxes, to eliminate the open space receivers and running backs use so well.

When it's done correctly, team tackling is a swarm of defenders converging to the ball. All it takes is one player missing an assignment, though, and bad angles lead to sloppy technique.

Now I understand those of you who will at any chance blast AJ Hawk, that's the norm on this forum.

I've made it clear to the author of the article, that he doesn't know JACK SHIT. Of course I was imediatley banned , but could care less.

Read the quote from Capers, then go back and take another look at the clip.

It won't change anyones mind, but somewhere deep down, you all will realize the play wasn't near as bad as it was made out to be.

The whole defense sucked at one point or another last week, time to move on, timt to concentrate on The Jets!!!!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

Clay Matthews was put in a similar situation on the other side of the field a couple drives later only he had a blocker in front of him and Harvin had more time to react after he caught the ball. Did Clay run backwards... no Clay ran toward Harvin and made the tackle (with an added forced fumble) before he got the first down. That's the difference between what a good LB does and what a bad LB does. Make all of the excuses you want it's not hard to see.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 

#1, he didn't "run backward" he adjusted his angle, cutting down a lane.

In the 3rd quarter, I believe it was just after the safety, Hawk took on either a rb or wr who caught a pass in the flat and he registered a solo open field tackle.

He lined the guy up, closed the gap, and wrapped him up for no gain or could have been a loss.
Why is that play not "Classic Hawk"?

Hawk once again lead the team in tackles while being on the field only 48 of 70 plays.

I guess unless it's an "impact play" those tackles don't count.

There were very few "Impact plays" last Thursday. From anyone.

I saw Clay whiff real bad on a rb in the backfield one play, yet you don't mention that.

I guess Clay was a "real Bad lb" on that play.

Just read where Lattimore will be starting for Jones, but when it comes to playing the "dime" lb it will probably be AJ Hawk, not Lattimore or Barrington, because Hawk has the experience of making the D calls and adjustments.

So Good news boys, you will probably have many more plays this week to bash on AJ Hawk.

Have fun with it.

Originally Posted by: StarrMax1 

We don't mention that because Clay put himself in the position to make a play. I'd rather the player get embarrassed by the rb or wr in the backfield. At least he put himself in the position to make a play.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 

We don't mention that because Clay put himself in the position to make a play. I'd rather the player get embarrassed by the rb or wr in the backfield. At least he put himself in the position to make a play.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123 

And Hawk didn't put himself in position?

He did exactly what he should have done.

The play was a 4 yd gain, better that then Hawk whiffing and Harvin somehow gets through Hyde for a big gain.

1st drive of the game for Seattle, Packers stopped them next series, but then there was the roughing penalty on the punt.

Try taking a look at the big picture, not isolating this play and that play.

Originally Posted by: StarrMax1 

Why on earth would Hawk whiff on him? He was a few yards away with a free run at him with nobody standing in his way. Harvin wasn't up to speed and he was just completing catching the pass. Hawk started backing up before Harvin could even get his head around. All Hawk did was give Harvin more time to react and more space to work with. Instead of closing the distance and making the play he had to rely on Micah Hyde to defeat a block and get in Harvins way. If Hawk cannot make the play then he's simply not good.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 

Why on earth would Hawk whiff on him? He was a few yards away with a free run at him with nobody standing in his way. Harvin wasn't up to speed and he was just completing catching the pass. Hawk started backing up before Harvin could even get his head around. All Hawk did was give Harvin more time to react and more space to work with. Instead of closing the distance and making the play he had to rely on Micah Hyde to defeat a block and get in Harvins way. If Hawk cannot make the play then he's simply not good.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 

Harvin had the ball, he wasn't going to be stopped behind the line of scrimmage, Hawk made the adjustment so there wouldn't be a huge gain.

Go back and read Capers comment that was posted earlier about gang tackling.

Again
Hawk did exactly what he was suppose to do.

Originally Posted by: StarrMax1 

Easy to be a critic when you are sitting at home in your lazy boy.
Much more difficult on the field going full speed.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 

The part about converging on the ball and decreasing the amount of space a runner has to work with? Yeah that's how it works, Hawk closes on the ball so even if he misses other guys have more time to get there. Hawk was at the line of scrimmage before Harvin even caught the ball. "he wasn't going to be stopped" is bullshit. If Hawk kept moving he would have easily met Harvin before the Line of scimmage. I see no way at all that Hawks "adjustment" prevented a huge gain.

Originally Posted by: steveishere