OlHoss1884
10 years ago
Any NFL draft is considered a success if you can get 3 solid contributors out of it. When you add in the UFA we certainly got that. I think it's also a little early to evaluate. Typically the re-evaluation is done after 3 seasona, so let's see how Perry and Hayward stand after this year.

I will also reiterate that injuries are not busts. A draft wrecked because the best players got hurt is unfortunate but it doesn't mean they were bad picks.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits" --Albert Einstein
Laser Gunns
10 years ago

Any NFL draft is considered a success if you can get 3 solid contributors out of it. When you add in the UFA we certainly got that. I think it's also a little early to evaluate. Typically the re-evaluation is done after 3 seasona, so let's see how Perry and Hayward stand after this year.

I will also reiterate that injuries are not busts. A draft wrecked because the best players got hurt is unfortunate but it doesn't mean they were bad picks.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



would you say Justin HArrel was a bust?

injuries make busts. period.

if you are not producing on the field either by sucking, or not being on it you are bust.

Most drafts classes have mostly bust as most NFL players bust... no real surprise there.

Hayward looks very talented and if he stays healthy might be a starter for the long term and Daniels looks like he might be growing into that as well.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I adjusted the size because that is a HUGE "IF" given our track record.

MintBaconDrivel
Dec, 11, 2012 - FOREVER!
Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Jerel Worthy did come on nicely towards the end of his rookie season. Omitting that is just foolish. I think what stings most about giving up a 2nd rounder for what's probably going to be a 5th rounder at best is what the Packers gave up to get said 2nd round selection.

Packers gave their second (59th) and fourth round (123rd) selections for Jerel Worthy at 51st overall in the second round.


Eagles picked up Vinny Curry and Brandon Boykin.
UserPostedImage
nerdmann
10 years ago

would you say Justin HArrel was a bust?

injuries make busts. period.

if you are not producing on the field either by sucking, or not being on it you are bust.



I adjusted the size because that is a HUGE "IF" given our track record.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



Harrell was a calculated risk. Worthy did not have that type of injury history.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
musccy
10 years ago

Jerel Worthy did come on nicely towards the end of his rookie season. Omitting that is just foolish. I think what stings most about giving up a 2nd rounder for what's probably going to be a 5th rounder at best is what the Packers gave up to get said 2nd round selection.

Packers gave their second (59th) and fourth round (123rd) selections for Jerel Worthy at 51st overall in the second round.


Eagles picked up Vinny Curry and Brandon Boykin.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The Packers traded 3 picks to get Manning, and 2 to get Heyward (thanks to hindsight, I can live with that).


wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
10 years ago

Any NFL draft is considered a success if you can get 3 solid contributors out of it. When you add in the UFA we certainly got that. I think it's also a little early to evaluate. Typically the re-evaluation is done after 3 seasona, so let's see how Perry and Hayward stand after this year.

I will also reiterate that injuries are not busts. A draft wrecked because the best players got hurt is unfortunate but it doesn't mean they were bad picks.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



A team that goes almost exclusively with draft and develop along with picking up a few guys off the street has got to better than what the "average" NFL team does because 1. the "average" NFL team is simply that-average. I would hope that the Packers Inc would strive to be more than average. 2. The "average" NFL team also goes out and acquires free agents to supplement the draft ESPECIALLY when it is a weak draft year.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
10 years ago

Harrell was a calculated risk. Worthy did not have that type of injury history.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I hate taking calculated risks in the first round. it is just foolish. That is what the 6th and 7th rounds are for.
UserPostedImage
Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.

Søren Kierkegaard wrote:



Sub Draft for Life ... it fits.
UserPostedImage
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
10 years ago
more from Rob Demovsky 

Aaron Rodgers did not mention anyone by name, but it's entirely possible that he was referring to the Green Bay Packers' 2011 and 2012 draft classes when he made a rather cryptic comment on Wednesday.

The Packers quarterback was asked about this year's rookie class.

And his answer was both a compliment to this group and a shot at ones that came before it.

"I think you're seeing it with this draft class, the maturity about them, the lack of the entitlement that maybe we've seen in some other draft classes," Rodgers said. "They've come in and worked really hard. It's going to be a tough cut down."



see the chart in the article.

Of the 18 players Thompson selected in those two drafts, only seven still remain on his roster. The 38.9 percent retention rate is the lowest in the NFL from the those two drafts (see accompanying chart below).


UserPostedImage
uffda udfa
10 years ago

more from Rob Demovsky 



see the chart in the article.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I know it's my confirmation bias talking, but that's not very good. If you're draft and develop and that's your record based on the draft please tell me how/why our GM got an extension?

Datone is on his way to joining the failures. Our D will likely continue to be below average, at best, but there's no accountability. It's the exact opposite...a raise and an extension. Makes sense. [puke]


UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Users browsing this topic
    Fan Shout
    Zero2Cool (8h) : Fake news. Cowboys say no
    Zero2Cool (9h) : Mystery candidate in the Cowboys head coaching search believed to be Packers ST Coordinator Rich Bisaccia.
    beast (23h) : Also why do both NYC teams have absolutely horrible OL for over a decade?
    beast (23h) : I wonder why the Jets always hire defensive coaches to be head coach
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Still HC positions available out there. I wonder if Hafley pops up for one
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Trent Baalke is out as the Jaguars GM.
    dfosterf (22-Jan) : Jeff Hafley would have been a better choice, fortunately they don't know that. Someone will figure that out next off season
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Aaron Glenn Planning To Take Jets HC Job
    dfosterf (22-Jan) : Martha- C'est mon boulot! 😁
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you
    wpr (22-Jan) : Z, glad you are feeling better.
    wpr (22-Jan) : My son and D-I-L work for UM. It's a way to pick on them.
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : Thank you. I rarely get sick, and even more rarely sick to the point I can't work.
    wpr (22-Jan) : Beast- back to yesterday, I CAN say OSU your have been Michigan IF the odds of making the playoffs were more urgent.
    dfosterf (22-Jan) : Glad to hear you are feeling a bit better.
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : I've been near death ill last several days, finally feel less dead and site issues.
    Zero2Cool (22-Jan) : It is a big deal. This host is having issues. It's frustrating.
    Martha Careful (22-Jan) : just kidding...it was down
    Martha Careful (22-Jan) : you were blocked yesterday, due to a a recalcitrant demeanor yesterday in the penalty box for a recalcitrant demeanor
    dfosterf (22-Jan) : Was that site shutdown on your end or mine? No big deal, just curious
    beast (21-Jan) : That way teams like Indiana and SMU don't make the conference championships by simply avoiding all the other good teams in their own confere
    beast (21-Jan) : Also, with these "Super Conferences" instead of a single conference champion, have 4 teams make a Conference playoffs.
    beast (21-Jan) : Also in college football, is a bye week a good or bad thing?
    Martha Careful (21-Jan) : The tournament format was fine. Seeding could use some work.
    beast (21-Jan) : You can't assume Ohio State would of won the Michigan game...
    beast (21-Jan) : Rankings were 1) Oregon 2) Georgia 3) Texas 4) Penn State 5) Notre Dame 6) Ohio State, none of the rest mattered
    wpr (21-Jan) : Texas, ND and OSU would have been fighting for the final 2 slots.
    wpr (21-Jan) : Oregon and Georgia were locks. Without the luxury of extra playoff berths, Ohios St would have been more focused on Michigan game.
    wpr (21-Jan) : Zero, no. If there were only 4 teams Ohio State would have been one of them. Boise St and ASU would not have been selected.
    Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : So that was 7 vs 8, that means in BCS they never would made it?
    Martha Careful (21-Jan) : A great game. Give ND credit for coming back, although I am please with the outcome.
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : FG to make it academic
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : and there's the dagger
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ooooo 8 point game with 4 minutes to go!
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ooooooooohhhhhh he missed!
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Ooooo that completion makes things VERY interesting
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Game not over yet
    beast (21-Jan) : Oh yeah, Georgia starting quarterback season ending elbow injury
    beast (21-Jan) : Sadly something happened to Georgia... they should be playing in this game against Ohio State
    beast (21-Jan) : I thought Ohio State and Texas were both better than Notre Dame & Penn State
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Notre Lame getting rolled
    Martha Careful (21-Jan) : Ohio State just got punched in the gut. Lets see how they respond
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Notre Lame vs the Luckeyes, bleh
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : Oh snap!!!
    Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : Even Stevie Wonder can see that.
    Zero2Cool (21-Jan) : Nah, you see Lions OC leaving to be HC of Bears is directly related to Packers.
    Mucky Tundra (21-Jan) : ohhhhhhh Zero is in TROUBLE
    packerfanoutwest (21-Jan) : Zero, per your orders, check Bearshome, not packershome
    Zero2Cool (20-Jan) : Then he'll land with another team and flourish.
    Zero2Cool (20-Jan) : Ben going to Bears. He'll be out in 3 years.
    Please sign in to use Fan Shout
    2024 Packers Schedule
    Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
    Eagles
    Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
    COLTS
    Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
    Titans
    Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
    VIKINGS
    Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
    Rams
    Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
    CARDINALS
    Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
    TEXANS
    Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
    Jaguars
    Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
    LIONS
    Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
    Bears
    Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
    49ERS
    Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
    DOLPHINS
    Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
    Lions
    Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
    Seahawks
    Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
    SAINTS
    Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
    Vikings
    Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
    BEARS
    Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
    Eagles
    Recent Topics
    22-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    22-Jan / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

    21-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    21-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

    20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    20-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    19-Jan / Random Babble / Martha Careful

    18-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

    17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

    17-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

    16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

    16-Jan / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

    Headlines
    Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.