Wade
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11 years ago
Abbrederis...only because of his injury history w/concussions.
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yooperfan
11 years ago

Abbrederis...only because of his injury history w/concussions.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



I concur.
Laser Gunns
11 years ago
Pump the brakes peeps...

Why is everyone assuming Cobb will bring big moneys?

He's had:

443
954
375->

Yard seasons... Hardly productive enough to warrant a big contract.

2 shitty and 1 good-not-great year is not too impressive.

I'd argue he is much more talented than that, but numbers are tangible.

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mi_keys
11 years ago

Pump the brakes peeps...

Why is everyone assuming Cobb will bring big moneys?

He's had:

443
954
375->

Yard seasons... Hardly productive enough to warrant a big contract.

2 shitty and 1 good-not-great year is not too impressive.

I'd argue he is much more talented than that, but numbers are tangible.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



It's a bit ridiculous to refer to this past season as shitty when, had he not been injured, he produced at a pace that would deliver 1,150 yards, 83 catches and 11 touchdowns over a full 16-game year.

Same thing with his rookie year when he had a big impact as a returner and had to compete for targets against a deep, established receiving group with Jennings, Nelson, Finley, Jones and Driver. How many rookies deliver huge numbers in those circumstances?

Edit:
In 2012, Cobb ranked 10th in yards, 6th in touchdowns and 7th in catches in the NFL in just his second season.

Edit 2:
Not sure if I'm just blind or if something was going on with pro football reference because when I went back I saw that Cobb was 17th in catches (14th amongst receivers), 24th in yards (22nd amongst receiver) and 16th in TDs (13th amongst receivers). Still, arguably a top 15-20 season for receivers in his second season was a breakout and he continued that into year 3 until he got hurt.

You've missed the mark.
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Dexter_Sinister
11 years ago

It's a bit ridiculous to refer to this past season as shitty when, had he not been injured, he produced at a pace that would deliver 1,150 yards, 83 catches and 11 touchdowns over a full 16-game year.

Same thing with his rookie year when he had a big impact as a returner and had to compete for targets against a deep, established receiving group with Jennings, Nelson, Finley, Jones and Driver. How many rookies deliver huge numbers in those circumstances?

Edit:
In 2012, Cobb ranked 10th in yards, 6th in touchdowns and 7th in catches in the NFL in just his second season.

Edit 2:
Not sure if I'm just blind or if something was going on with pro football reference because when I went back I saw that Cobb was 17th in catches (14th amongst receivers), 24th in yards (22nd amongst receiver) and 16th in TDs (13th amongst receivers). Still, arguably a top 15-20 season for receivers in his second season was a breakout and he continued that into year 3 until he got hurt.

You've missed the mark.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



This offense takes receivers 2-3 years to really catch on. In the middle of Cobb's 3rd year when he was having a great season, he missed a lot of games.

But we have seen what he can do on the field.

There is another aspect in that the Packers tend to be pretty deep at WR and we are not going to have a league leader in targets. Because Rodgers spreads the ball around too much. But what we will have a leader in is catches per target and yards per catch. Cobb is right up near the top.
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steveishere
11 years ago
Cobb has over 1,000 yards over his last 16 games. The production is there just a freak broken leg held him back. I wouldn't be surprised to see him land a deal for around 6-7m average but it's still quite a bit of money to sign both him and Jordy and Jordy is clearly our #1 wr so it seems he's likely to be the priority. Boykins contract runs out after next year as well but he can still be tendered as RFA cheaper for an extra season so I see him sticking.
texaspackerbacker
11 years ago
I still say Cobb is the first to go - after this season - a lot of other teams maybe valuing him more highly than the Packers. It seems to me that Cobb has declined just slightly rather than improving since his first year. He just doesn't seem to have the zip he had, even though he shouldn't be losing it with age, and a broken leg usually doesn't bring lingering effects like knee injuries. For some reason, though, he just doesn't seem as fast. I also think Cobb is a little bit fragile. I have been trying to figure the reason why Ted drafted three WRs - when we easily could have just gone with what we had; I think the probable NOT re-signing of Cobb is a major reason.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

Cobb has over 1,000 yards over his last 16 games. The production is there just a freak broken leg held him back. I wouldn't be surprised to see him land a deal for around 6-7m average but it's still quite a bit of money to sign both him and Jordy and Jordy is clearly our #1 wr so it seems he's likely to be the priority. Boykins contract runs out after next year as well but he can still be tendered as RFA cheaper for an extra season so I see him sticking.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Cobb is still extremely young, whereas Jordy is 30. Therefore Cobb is the priority. However, as the cap expands, these guys will all fit under it. The deals will seem like blockbusters when they're signed, then seem like bargain basement deals two years later, like the last two contracts Aaron has signed.
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steveishere
11 years ago

Cobb is still extremely young, whereas Jordy is 30. Therefore Cobb is the priority. However, as the cap expands, these guys will all fit under it. The deals will seem like blockbusters when they're signed, then seem like bargain basement deals two years later, like the last two contracts Aaron has signed.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Jordy is the better player and should still be able to last the 4 or 5 year contract that they'd give to either of them. I haven't heard of anything on them working on a deal with Cobb but I doubt he gets re signed before Nelson.
StoicFire
11 years ago
I'm not sure who it will be, but I'm a little surprised Cobb is such a popular pick. I view him as a future superstar; the kind of player we don't let go of for a long time. I think we'd be more likely to let Nelson walk than Cobb. That being said, I view Cobb, Nelson, and Boykin as the top 3 receivers this season, so I guess I'll pick a rookie to be gone first.

My vote is Abbrederis. I believe the depth we have at Receiver will make it tough for him to get a roster spot, and since the Practice Squad players are free agents, I pick Abbrederis to be "gone from the Packers" first out of the 5 in question. Hooray for technicalities!
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