TE Colt Lyerla signed to roster· Page 4

Pack93z
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11 years ago

The Packers didn't sign him to a 10 year $200 million contract for crying out loud. They added him to their 90 man roster. Quite a bit of over reaction to this I believe.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Exactly.. if he doesn't work out.. little lost.

My only concern with the young man might not be in the short time frame... I am going to assume that he is going to tow the line to make his chance count. Logic would lend itself that way.

But often.. personally demons represent themselves.. especially those related to narcotics. Can he sustain the change over the long road with proper support? For him as a person, I certainly hope he succeeds short and long term.. if it benefits the Packers great, but if not, so be it if he can find his path in life.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#32

A broke clock is right more often than Bob McGinn. Why would any NFL team worry about the Packers? That makes absolutely no sense. One would think they have enough to worry about with their own team.

The Packers didn't sign him to a 10 year $200 million contract for crying out loud. They added him to their 90 man roster. Quite a bit of over reaction to this I believe.

This move puts everything on Colt Lyerla. The Packers have no risk in this move, none whatsoever. If anything at all, the league would give the Packers CREDIT for being willing to give a young man a second chance.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yeah, I don't get it at all. Much to do about nothing. What exactly is the risk involved here? A tiny signing bonus? It seems very low risk, high reward to me. Bob McGinn is annoying sometimes, and seems to be going downhill some lately. Although I guess as long as he is getting attention, he's doing his job. Even if it was true, I'm sure the Packers do not give to sh#ts about league "cred." I have no doubt there are players, coaches, and administrators around the league that appreciate when teams like the Packers give the Jolly's of the world a second chance. A lot of players have many issues to work through during their career, and make many mistake, but are otherwise "good" people. Some just need another chance and the support of the team.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#33

League cred? Got it.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I don't think there is a whole lot of overreaction. Just simple discernment of what the team might expect of a player like Lyerla in the coming months, and should he make the final roster. Blasting those Sandyhook comments on twitter, to me, was the worst of his transgressions. That is a PR nightmare for any team that takes him on. That cannot be denied. A pretty stupid move. That alone is a lot to overlook.

I also don't think he could have landed with a better organization than the Green Bay Packers. If any team can give this kid his best shot at succeeding and turning his life around, it would be the Packers. How Thompson, McCarthy and his staff decide to deal with him on their team will be the bigger story. They are giving him one hell of a gift in this chance to redeem himself. No?

Sure, GB has an out, and I agree with you that their reputation will not be tarnished by giving him this opportunity, as long as he is able to keep his life on track. If he cannot, well, then they release him and take their lumps in PR, for whatever might cause a release from the team... For instance, what if the program they put in place to help him doesn't take? And, what might we expect him to do? That can run the gamut. And, in this, McGinn could be on to something. We are a more "family" oriented team. I hope like hell Lyerla doesn't go off the rails and do something foolish here, like he did just months ago at Oregon. Those are valid concerns.

However, if he comes around, and proves his worth to this Packers team who chose to stick their necks out to give him this chance, all is good.

I do think the Packers staff will work very hard to positively mentor this player, and it could pay some huge dividends.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#35

Sure, GB has an out, and I agree their reputation will not be tarnished by giving him this opportunity, as long as he is able to keep his life on track. If he cannot, well, then they release him and take their lumps in PR, for whatever might cause a release from the team... However, if he comes around, and proves his worth to a team who chose to stick their necks out to give him this chance, all is good.

Originally Posted by: play2win

I don't see the "PR lumps" as a big deal at all. As far as I'm concerned, they could just state that they took a minor risk in an attempt to improve the football team. It didn't work out, and now they are moving forward. Next question. The media may try to leech on the story a little, but who cares. The media is horrible. The Aldon Smiths of the world deserve much more attention because they actually involve a substantial financial risk to the team.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#36

Sure, GB has an out, and I agree with you that their reputation will not be tarnished by giving him this opportunity, as long as he is able to keep his life on track. If he cannot, well, then they release him and take their lumps in PR, for whatever might cause a release from the team... For instance, what if the program they put in place to help him doesn't take? And, what might we expect him to do? That can run the gamut. And, in this, McGinn could be on to something. We are a more "family" oriented team. I hope like hell Lyerla doesn't go off the rails and do something foolish here, like he did just months ago at Oregon. Those are valid concerns.

However, if he comes around, and proves his worth to this Packers team who chose to stick their necks out to give him this chance, all is good.

I do think the Packers staff will work very hard to positively mentor this player, and it could pay some huge dividends.

Originally Posted by: play2win

Did the Ravens/Redskins/Patriots take a hit when they signed Donte Stallworth?
Did the Rams take a hit when they signed Leonard Little?
Did the Bills take a hit when they signed James Lofton?
Did the 49ers take a hit with Tim Harris?
Did the Packers take a hit with Antonio Freeman?

If any NFL team is subjecting criticism towards the Packers for signing Colt Lyerla to their 90 man roster, it is out of JEALOUSLY that they don't have the strength and leadership to withstand such a move.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#37

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

All I'm saying is there are all kinds of scenarios that could come into play that might give the team a black eye. Some to lesser degrees than others, should he decide to take the wrong path. That huge "unknown" is the risk to the team. And, these are just real considerations the team has decided to take on in giving him this opportunity. I mean, we've seen some crazy shit that has happened throughout the league, Aldon Smith included...

I like that they are giving him a chance, just not willing to say there is no real risk to how the team is perceived, because we just don't know what he might do if the wheels come off.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#38

Did the Ravens take a hit when they signed Donte Stallworth?
Did the Rams take a hit when they signed Leonard Little?
Did the Bills take a hit when they signed James Lofton?
Did the 49ers take a hit with Tim Harris?
Did the Packers take a hit with Antonio Freeman?

If any NFL team is subjecting criticism towards the Packers for signing Colt Lyerla to their 90 man roster, it is out of JEALOUSLY that they don't have the strength and leadership to withstand such a move.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I'm not talking about now.

I'm just considering what might lay ahead, should things not work out according to plan, that's all.

I think GB is in fine standing in giving him this chance as things stand today. And, yeah, i got it, he is signed to the 90 man roster. I'm really addressing what we may be faced with in the future. How will this player handle success? How will he handle failure? We're talking a lot of character stuff about a guy with some very recent character flaws and issues.

I already stated he couldn't have found a better place to land. And, I am really hopeful for the kid, and that he can indeed turn it around. It would be so great if he did.

Let's say we just go back to considering the positives he may bring to the Packers on the football field. Holy crap. That could be huge. A player at TE who can also play the H back and the FB positions... Enormous talent on the field. Again, this could be really, really good. And, GB is as sound an organization as a player could find. Especially when they need a shot at redeeming themselves and their careers.

Pack93z
Select Member

11 years ago

#39

Personally... this is "news" because there is little happening other than signings right now to discuss. There is some "baggage" to this signing.. so they are talking about it.

Just an UDFA signing.. little risk.. this one just might have a little more reward potential based on talent.

Sure other teams have noticed.. if he keeps his head on straight and his talent projects forward in the league.. it becomes another facet they have to defend. Anyone thinking that there is some negative impacts to this signing.. other than the over played "Packer people" nonsense.. it just isn't here.

Much like the Hubbard signing.. there might be a little more potential than average.

What strikes me funny though, is those that hammered the Hubbard signing, are celebrating this one. 🤔

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#40

I'm not talking about now.

I'm just considering what might lay ahead, should things not work out according to plan, that's all.

Originally Posted by: play2win

You were provided several examples of previous signings to 53 man rosters of people committing worse, or allegedly committing worse. Rather than respond to the question of whether those teams took a hit, you sidestep it by saying you're not talking about now and you're talking about in the future. Well guess what, it is the future and I gave you examples of the past.

Lets say Colt does something stupid. Lets say he gets busted doing cocaine. He gets cut, the Packers move on.

How does this hurt the Packers? How does this effect them in any way? The teams mentioned earlier took no hit, why would the Packers take a hit for adding Colt to their 90 man roster?

Do you believe a team is not going to trade with the Packers because they gave Colt a chance?

Do you feel that a team would not agree to play them in the pre-season because they signed Colt?

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