buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

I don't think trading down will be as easy for Ted at #21 than it would be if they were sitting at say #27 or 28. It will take the right scenario where a team has a chance to grab someone they want very badly that won't be there much longer.

If, for example a QB needy team chooses to wait and trade back up why wouldn't they wait several more picks as I doubt any team behind us would be a threat to grab a QB.

I think Ted will be picking a player at #21. Most these teams drafting early need players and in a deep draft it would be costly to give up second and third round players.

I could see Ted Thompson doing something in Round 3 if they get a compensatory for Jennings in that round. He could move the 85th up or down. My understanding is we will get two extra picks and a total of nine so it's not really pressing that Ted add more picks in this draft.



Originally Posted by: warhawk 



There is The WashingtonWredskins who don't have a 1st rnd pick this year(traded to Rams), they need help many places, Safety being one of the most needed.

I can see Ted trading with them at 21 if he can get their #2(35th overall), and #3.

That is the one scenario that sticks out to me.

The other is that The Packers could get lower in the 1st rnd if Cleveland decides they want to move up from 26(From Colts).

That would get The Packers in the range you are talking about and would probably get them a 2nd along with it from The Browns.

Trading is exciting to think about, but a team needs a trade partner, with the reported depth of talent in this draft, I am betting ted will trade down or out of the 1st rnd if at all possible.
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sschind
11 years ago

There is The WashingtonWredskins who don't have a 1st rnd pick this year(traded to Rams), they need help many places, Safety being one of the most needed.

I can see Ted trading with them at 21 if he can get their #2(35th overall), and #3.

That is the one scenario that sticks out to me.

The other is that The Packers could get lower in the 1st rnd if Cleveland decides they want to move up from 26(From Colts).

That would get The Packers in the range you are talking about and would probably get them a 2nd along with it from The Browns.

Trading is exciting to think about, but a team needs a trade partner, with the reported depth of talent in this draft, I am betting ted will trade down or out of the 1st rnd if at all possible.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



The Redskins trade would be OK by me. As for Cleveland the teams picking between the Packers at 21 and Cleveland at 26 (Eagles Chiefs, Bengals, Chargers) probably won't be drafting a QB that high so if the Browns decide to pass on a QB at#4 (I would and draft Watkins if available) hoping to nab 1 at 26 (Carr?) probably wouldn't have to worry about any of these teams picking him. On the other hand if they pass on a QB at#4 pretty much everyone knows they will try to get one at 26 so any other team that has passed on one of the top 3 (vikings for example) could try to trade with the Packers or any of the 22,23,24,25 spots to get ahead of Cleveland.

I agree that draft day picks can be exciting. Its easy and safe (well, as safe as a draft pick can be) to stand pat and take the BPA or the the guy who best fits your need (if that is your strategy) but taking a chance that the guy you really want will be there 6 or 7 or more picks later and you can get another pick in the process is something I think most GMs dream of.

GMS who trade up do it for need. They need a franchise QB and the best ones will be gone by the time they pick so they trade up to get one of them. They don't trade up if they don't have a particular guy in mind. It just doesn't make sense.

GM's who trade down may be looking at a particular guy who they think will still be available but most likely when they trade down its because they are sitting there with 2 or 3 (or more) guys that they would be equally happy taking and they are confident that at least one of them will be available several picks later. They get one of the guys they want and another pick. Its a can't lose proposition.

I just think that once you get out of the top 10 or maybe top 15 the excitement of getting a stud really drops off so if you can move down 6 or 8 sots, still get a solid guy and pick up another I'm all for it.

Now if someone like Dix or Pryor were there at 21 I'd say take them because I think it would be safe to assume that they are perhapes the BPA (or very close to it) and they also fill a need. If you can get both its pretty much a no brainer as well.

I'll state the obvious of course and say whether Ted stays put or trades down (I don't think he will trade up) will depend entirely on who is still available at 21.

play2win
11 years ago

It's always difficult to predict the draft when we're picking so late again, but I am going to guess it will be Xavier Su'a Filo, OG.

He's the highest rated interior lineman in the draft, can play OG or OT, and none of the mocks show anyone picking him earlier.

I am guessing by pick 21 he'll be as high on TT's board as anyone, he'll fill a need and I would guess Ted Thompson will take the best OL over the 3rd best Safety.

Originally Posted by: OlHoss1884 



Well OlHoss1884, we will find out exactly one month from today! Man, I can't wait.
Yerko
11 years ago
If Pryor and Clinton-Dix are on the board, I'd really hope that Ted Thompson has zero hesitation in selecting one.

However, Pryor scares me as a player for two reasons. If you watch his highlight reel  there are way too many times he is leading with his helmet or his head down.

1. Penalties upon penalties upon penalties. If he continues hitting in that manner, it will really hurt the defense getting off the field at times.

2. Injuries. Being a Packers fan, you have to be weary of this. Nothing wrong with being a big hitter but again, in the manner in which it seems like he hits can lead to easy injuries. He could be in for a reality check if he tries to hit a veteran like that.

Worth the risk though because the way he hits can be coached. At least he actually likes to hit...
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joemailman
11 years ago

If Pryor and Clinton-Dix are on the board, I'd really hope that Ted Thompson has zero hesitation in selecting one.

However, Pryor scares me as a player for two reasons. If you watch his highlight reel  there are way too many times he is leading with his helmet or his head down.

1. Penalties upon penalties upon penalties. If he continues hitting in that manner, it will really hurt the defense getting off the field at times.

2. Injuries. Being a Packers fan, you have to be weary of this. Nothing wrong with being a big hitter but again, in the manner in which it seems like he hits can lead to easy injuries. He could be in for a reality check if he tries to hit a veteran like that.

Worth the risk though because the way he hits can be coached. At least he actually likes to hit...

Originally Posted by: Yerko 



I really can't see Clinton-Dix being available. The Bears need a Safety even worse than the Packers do. I think they'll take him. I'm undecided on Pryor because he wasn'r asked to play deep coverage much in college. If he can't do that, he might still be a good player, but not worth a 1st round pick. I'd probably prefer Moseley, Ebron or Nix in the 1st round.

mi_keys
11 years ago

I really can't see Clinton-Dix being available. The Bears need a Safety even worse than the Packers do. I think they'll take him. I'm undecided on Pryor because he wasn'r asked to play deep coverage much in college. If he can't do that, he might still be a good player, but not worth a 1st round pick. I'd probably prefer Moseley, Ebron or Nix in the 1st round.

Originally Posted by: joemailman 



Fingers crossed the Bears feel content with MD Jennings.
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joemailman
11 years ago

Fingers crossed the Bears feel content with MD Jennings.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



I'm afraid even the Bears aren't that stupid.

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11 years ago

Fingers crossed the Bears feel content with MD Jennings.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



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