Laser Gunns
10 years ago

Who better than Rodgers and McCarthy to teach Tolzien the offense.
That said, I'd like to have Flynn around for another year.
He's a proven commodity as a backup in Green Bay.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 




Considering that every QB since Rodgers has been fucking awful (Flynn is acceptable) I don't have much faith in them to mentor a QB.



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Dulak
10 years ago

One loose end still there in free agency is Matt Flynn. There has been very little said or done - which to me, seems like a good thing. I see Scott Tolzien as having a much better upside than Flynn. I'd like to see Tolzien benefit from a full off-season and training camp, and Flynn not re-signed.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 




Flynn or Tolzien ... is this a real question ... I will respond LOL

or how about this ... lets have the QB debacle we had last year because someone 'cough cough mike m.' cant let a cant pass QB go.

Flynn if we dont want to lose like dogs ... tolzien if we do ... if we want to work someone up for the future maybe tolzien but Im not sold on him
buckeyepackfan
10 years ago

One loose end still there in free agency is Matt Flynn. There has been very little said or done - which to me, seems like a good thing. I see Scott Tolzien as having a much better upside than Flynn. I'd like to see Tolzien benefit from a full off-season and training camp, and Flynn not re-signed.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



When it comes to back-up QB, I don't give a damn about "upside"(I hate that terminology).
Every rookie coming in to the league has some kind of "upside".

After last years backup debacle I can't even believe there is any discussion.

I'm betting The Packers have one less DB , LB, or maybe only 4 TE's on the final 53 and keep 3qb's.

Tolzien may have all the upside in the world, and in another year he may be able to be that guy who can "step in" in a pinch. Hell it could be this year, but I'm hoping The packers don't gamble with their backup QB.

I hope this news feed is right!!!!

http://www.kffl.com/gnews.php?id=897487-packers-trying-to-re-sign-two-players#sthash.ahkIwibt.dpuf 

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El3ment12
10 years ago
Tolzien lost us a couple games all by himself, and almost lost us the Vikings game had flynn not pulled off that miracle. People make fun of Flynn's arm strength, but at least he knows what he's doing out there.
DakotaT
10 years ago
Matt Flynn is a perfect backup quarterback for the Packers and for as long as Rodgers is in Green Bay. Now, how much is he worth on a long term deal? He has already stolen plenty of money from various teams and is more than likely financially set for life, so what is ample compensation?

At what point do we start grooming Rodger's successor? He's 30 now, so he realistically has 8 years at the most left in him, correct?
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El3ment12
10 years ago
I was having a good day Dakota. Don't make me think of a time when we won't have Rodgers anymore 😞
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
Not having Rodgers shouldn't be a stressor anytime soon. 8 years left with him playing at or near his peak should be about right - Peyton is 37 or 38. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rodgers make it to 40 or more.

As for replacing him, obviously neither Flynn nor Tolzien would be that. The time would be 2-4 years before Rodgers retires. However, not knowing exactly when that is, I'd say about 5-6 years from now, a little sooner if a flat out bargain falls to us like when we drafted Rodgers.

As for the immediate situation, IMO, Tolzien is a better player. Forget "upside" - I'm talking ability. His only problem last season was not having the benefit of training camp to learn and prepare. With that, he should be head and shoulders better than Flynn, and probably a lot cheaper too.
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danreb
10 years ago
We have to remember that Tolzien went from practice squad to starter in like a 2-week period. Yes, the picks he threw were dumb, but you gotta learn.

Flynn is the backup right now until Tolzien proves us otherwise. But I'm fine with this stable of 3 QBs and do want Flynn re-signed.
nyrpack
10 years ago
im going neither, the guy thats a perfect fit for green bay is mark sanchez !!
jimmy b.
DakotaT
10 years ago

im going neither, the guy thats a perfect fit for green bay is mark sanchez !!

Originally Posted by: nyrpack 



We don't need any fashion models in Green Bay.

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