PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

Next year is when the rubber really hits the road for Seattle's cap. Both Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman will be up, but until then, they've got another year to keep them on the cap friendly terms of their original deals.

John Schneider will have his work cut out for him.

Look at all the talent they brought in within the last 3 years… especially last year alone. It is amazing, and it paid off with the SB win. I kind of wish Ted would take more chances like they did to push his team over the hump. Another Lombardi Trophy for the Packers would have made it worthwhile these last 3 seasons, even if we would have had to purge the roster a bit afterwards.

I don't think it can be done through the draft alone. I just don't.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



While I also wish Ted would take a few more chances now and then I must say that Ted has been limited in what he was able to do a little more also. Seattle has one thing Ted has never had the benefit of having. A cheap QB. Having your QB on the 2nd year of a 3rd rounder rookie contract is a lot of money that can be spent on FA. They wouldn't have probably 1/2 of the FA they have if they had to pay real starting QB salaries.

It has been really nice to go from a HOF QB to what appears to be another HOF QB but that privileged has come at the expense of what can be done in the FA market.
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play2win
11 years ago

While I also wish Ted would take a few more chances now and then I must say that Ted has been limited in what he was able to do a little more also. Seattle has one thing Ted has never had the benefit of having. A cheap QB. Having your QB on the 2nd year of a 3rd rounder rookie contract is a lot of money that can be spent on FA. They wouldn't have probably 1/2 of the FA they have if they had to pay real starting QB salaries.

It has been really nice to go from a HOF QB to what appears to be another HOF QB but that privileged has come at the expense of what can be done in the FA market.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



You're absolutely right. However, there are other opportunities missed before Rodgers signed his giant contract last season.

It is a difficult endeavor to build on that kind of success. We now have Rodgers and Matthews signed to their deals, and new ones coming in for Nelson and Cobb, amongst others.

I'm pretty much saying our window was 2011-12. The game is now changed in GB on this level. You're absolutely right. But, we can add top talent. It is just going to require some better, and more difficult decision making.
musccy
11 years ago

While I also wish Ted would take a few more chances now and then I must say that Ted has been limited in what he was able to do a little more also. Seattle has one thing Ted has never had the benefit of having. A cheap QB. Having your QB on the 2nd year of a 3rd rounder rookie contract is a lot of money that can be spent on FA. They wouldn't have probably 1/2 of the FA they have if they had to pay real starting QB salaries.

It has been really nice to go from a HOF QB to what appears to be another HOF QB but that privileged has come at the expense of what can be done in the FA market.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Exactly, Seattle has been extremely fortunate to find very cheap labor with Sherman, Wilson, even Thomas I think is at 5mil/year.

With that said, they've got almost 20 million wrapped up in Rice/Harvin who have been virtually useless to them. Schneider still deserves the credit because even with those missteps he's found competent receivers and depth across the roster to field a great team.

PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

You're absolutely right. However, there are other opportunities missed before Rodgers signed his giant contract last season.

It is a difficult endeavor to build on that kind of success. We now have Rodgers and Matthews signed to their deals, and new ones coming in for Nelson and Cobb, amongst others.

I'm pretty much saying our window was 2011-12. The game is now changed in GB on this level. You're absolutely right. But, we can add top talent. It is just going to require some better, and more difficult decision making.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



Rodgers last contract wasn't small, We go a deal, but he wasn't underpaid by any means so we were still strapped somewhat. I was saying the year before Brees got his deal, how much of an advantage it was at that point for the packers and saints to have QBs making 7-8 million rather than the 17 that Brady and Peyton were getting. Now we are on the other end of that.

Now that we have Rodgers and Clay locked up draft picks and street FA must produce in order for us to have the space and ability to make that push.

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QCHuskerFan
11 years ago

I would rather go all in and have to do a small rebuild for a year or two than just be a play off team all the time.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Really? That's like Tom Brady saying that looks aren't important in a spouse. Your perspective is skewed because we have been in the playoffs for an extended period.

If you make it to the playoffs, you can win a Super Bowl. If you don't, you're just a guaranteed loser.

This is the first time in forever that the best 2 teams played in the Super Bowl. Last year's Ravens were probably not the best team in the league. But they were in the playoffs. In 2011, the Giants sure weren't the best team in NFL, but they won the Super Bowl.

Quick. Which Packer team was better: 2010 or 2011? 2011 clearly, in my opinion. But 2010 won the Super Bowl, 2011 didn't. 2010 was the #6 seed. So they barely got into playoffs. But they got hot and won it all.

It might have been 1985, when Whitey Herzog said something along the lines of "I wouldn't mind losing the World Series every year. Because that means I at least got here." That's what I want. Get me to the playoffs every year. If we weren't so spoiled, more Packer fans would want that too.
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

Really? That's like Tom Brady saying that looks aren't important in a spouse. Your perspective is skewed because we have been in the playoffs for an extended period.

If you make it to the playoffs, you can win a Super Bowl. If you don't, you're just a guaranteed loser.

This is the first time in forever that the best 2 teams played in the Super Bowl. Last year's Ravens were probably not the best team in the league. But they were in the playoffs. In 2011, the Giants sure weren't the best team in NFL, but they won the Super Bowl.

Quick. Which Packer team was better: 2010 or 2011? 2011 clearly, in my opinion. But 2010 won the Super Bowl, 2011 didn't. 2010 was the #6 seed. So they barely got into playoffs. But they got hot and won it all.

It might have been 1985, when Whitey Herzog said something along the lines of "I wouldn't mind losing the World Series every year. Because that means I at least got here." That's what I want. Get me to the playoffs every year. If we weren't so spoiled, more Packer fans would want that too.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



We have been consistently to the playoffs, and we don't take it for granted, we are able to see what could potentially be if we made a couple FA moves every few years to give us that extra push. And doing so, with good draft and develop does not mean we would not have a chance at the playoffs on the other years as well it just means at those times we are giving it the extra effort to try for the SB.

2010 was the better team, it just faced much more adversity during the season. The team was only the 6th seed because of the injuries in the early middle parts of the season especially to Finley which caused the offense to need to be changed because of the amount of focus they planned with him that year.
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Laser Gunns
11 years ago

Exactly, Seattle has been extremely fortunate to find very cheap labor with Sherman, Wilson, even Thomas I think is at 5mil/year.



Originally Posted by: musccy 



with how many good players they have on the cheap. it's not luck.

they draft and coach damn well.

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play2win
11 years ago

with how many good players they have on the cheap. it's not luck.

they draft and coach damn well.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



Yeah, a remarkable job by that entire organization.
musccy
11 years ago

with how many good players they have on the cheap. it's not luck.

they draft and coach damn well.

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 



You're right. I've said that in other posts, just not this one. They're very fortunate to currently be paying All Pros and pro bowlers bargain basement prices, but that's due to the fact that they've drafted extraordinarily well.

11 years ago



Quick. Which Packer team was better: 2010 or 2011? 2011 clearly, in my opinion. But 2010 won the Super Bowl, 2011 didn't. 2010 was the #6 seed. So they barely got into playoffs. But they got hot and won it all.

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



The Giants got hot. The 2010 Packers team did not. They just finally started playing to their capabilities. There is a difference.

People don't realize how good that 2010 team was

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