MintBaconDrivel
11 years ago
You have a magic wand and through free agency or draft can add one playmaker to a single position on the Packers. What position and why does this propel them closer to a championship?
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11 years ago

You have a magic wand and through free agency or draft can add one playmaker to a single position on the Packers. What position and why does this propel them closer to a championship?

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



It's close. If we are talking about the upcoming FA period and this years' draft i'd have to go with proven talent:-

From these potential free agents:-

Brian Orapko
Jairus Byrd
T.J Ward
Greg Hardy

I'd have to go with Greg Hardy.

It's always a risk, the megabucks FA game but I think the defensive front is the cornerstone of a defense, and provided he plays to potential, Greg Hardy could be a top playmaker. He has great size (6'4, 290lbs), and with Mike Daniels Developing nicely, the entire complexion of the defense changes.




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play2win
11 years ago

It's close. If we are talking about the upcoming FA period and this years' draft i'd have to go with proven talent:-

From these potential free agents:-

Brian Orapko
Jairus Byrd
T.J Ward
Greg Hardy

I'd have to go with Greg Hardy.

It's always a risk, the megabucks FA game but I think the defensive front is the cornerstone of a defense, and provided he plays to potential, Greg Hardy could be a top playmaker. He has great size (6'4, 290lbs), and with Mike Daniels Developing nicely, the entire complexion of the defense changes.



Originally Posted by: VinceLambeauStarr 


I wonder about this. Without adequate S improvements, we'll be left with more of the same. I would rather go with Jairus Byrd. Both Datone Jones and Josh Boyd look like they can make a big swing upward going into year two, making DL improvements possibly less important than S.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on the DL being the cornerstone of a D. I do think we should add a NT in the draft, or possibly via FA… I don't see Raji returning, and Pickett may be able to stick as a backup. We could stand to add another high quality big fella in there.
blueleopard
11 years ago


I go T.J. Ward. Jairus Byrd is more fluid in coverage and is a better ball hawk, but I think Ward has better tackling form and gives us a leader we desperately need.

Say what you want about Nick Barnett celebrating for nothing after a 4-yard tackle, but we need somebody on defense that plays with some sort of emotion.
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago
Play making ILB to replace Brad Jones. One who can pass rush, run stuff and cover downfield. 6'3" 260 that runs a 4.4 40.

Improve the backend by improving the front end. Make it so our Dline and ILB make the stops so our DBs especially S can concentrate on pass coverage.

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11 years ago
Someone, anyone for the DL. Someone who totally disrupts the OL. I don't care if he comes via a trade, FA, draft or a substantial step up by one of the current players.
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Bigbyfan
11 years ago
Two players:

Jarius Byrd
Brandon Spikes


Gives us playmaking and toughness.
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Rockmolder
11 years ago

It's close. If we are talking about the upcoming FA period and this years' draft i'd have to go with proven talent:-

From these potential free agents:-

Brian Orapko
Jairus Byrd
T.J Ward
Greg Hardy

I'd have to go with Greg Hardy.

It's always a risk, the megabucks FA game but I think the defensive front is the cornerstone of a defense, and provided he plays to potential, Greg Hardy could be a top playmaker. He has great size (6'4, 290lbs), and with Mike Daniels Developing nicely, the entire complexion of the defense changes.



Originally Posted by: VinceLambeauStarr 



I like your thinking.

I'll just go best case scenario without putting any nametags on. Greg Hardy, for instance, is one guy who's a bit of an uncertainty when you plug him into a 3-4 system.

I'll go for a playmaker at the OLB position (surprise) or a mauling NT. A Tamba Hali or Vince Wilfork type, respectively.

Like PFWT said, you improve the frond end and the back end will follow. That's how the Giants won their Super Bowls, behind a fierce pass rush with some decent players behind them. If a QB is constantly under pressure, feeling the heat, getting hit, not having any time... He'll either get absolutely nowhere or start throwing it towards your safeties and CBs.
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I wonder about this. Without adequate S improvements, we'll be left with more of the same. I would rather go with Jairus Byrd. Both Datone Jones and Josh Boyd look like they can make a big swing upward going into year two, making DL improvements possibly less important than S.

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on the DL being the cornerstone of a D. I do think we should add a NT in the draft, or possibly via FA… I don't see Raji returning, and Pickett may be able to stick as a backup. We could stand to add another high quality big fella in there.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I like the look of Boyd and Jones, no denying that. My reason for wanting Hardy is the potential losses on the D line -

Pickett
Raji
Jolly
Wilson

That's age, experience and (a little) talent - With Hardy in the mix we'd have a great nucleus on the line without hindering anyone's progression due to the snap rotation.

Daniels, Neal, Worthy, Boyd, Hardy - Something to work with.
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11 years ago

I like your thinking.

I'll just go best case scenario without putting any nametags on. Greg Hardy, for instance, is one guy who's a bit of an uncertainty when you plug him into a 3-4 system.

I'll go for a playmaker at the OLB position (surprise) or a mauling NT. A Tamba Hali or Vince Wilfork type, respectively.

Like PFWT said, you improve the frond end and the back end will follow. That's how the Giants won their Super Bowls, behind a fierce pass rush with some decent players behind them. If a QB is constantly under pressure, feeling the heat, getting hit, not having any time... He'll either get absolutely nowhere or start throwing it towards your safeties and CBs.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



Agree with the front to back order of importance for getting to the bowl game - unless you have 4 absolute rock chewing duds in your secondary, a fierce front 7 compensates for the lack of elite level playmakers in the secondary.

Looking at it from a planning perspective :- Shields/Hyde/Heyward/Williams/Burnett (to a degree) is a good group of players, not the best, but more than serviceable :- the only position I think that needs fortifying is another competent safety. Thing is, you don't even need an absolute stud back there, just someone who won't be embarrassed should pressure not be consistent.

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