buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

I guess it is forbidden to express an opinion or to wish for the team to make any changes whatsoever without being criticized. I doubt any one on this site feels that they are able to become the GM of the Packers organization. Well except nermann.
Maaaaaaay as well beeeeee sheeeep and foooooollow bbbbblindly along with noooooo oooopiniooooon of ooooooour oooooown.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I thought you would know, this was not directed at you.

I applauded, then quoted hard-rocker for having the sense to post about football being "a team" sport.
The rest was just poking a little fun at those who tend to blame certain players for losses.

Just tryin' to lighten up what has been a pretty gloomy place lately.


I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
hardrocker950
11 years ago

WHAT????? Where did you ever get that idea from?

Obviously, you haven't been reading packershome GM geniuses posts for long!!!

Watch after EVERY loss or win for that matter, certain individuals will be pointed out and blamed for the loss, or blamed for the game being closer than it should have been, or get blamed for a game that happened 5 years ago, or get blamed for a future game, now, because our online geniuses CAN SEE INTO THE FUTURE!!!!!

Now Get With The Program!!!!!!!!

[grin1]

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Hehe, ya - they can have their opinions which they are entitled to, and are welcome to share. I try to avoid being roped into too much media hype, as I tend to be more of a free thinker.

Although I have often pointed fingers at individuals - my thoughts are the same. One player alone does not cost you a game.
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11 years ago

I thought you would know, this was not directed at you.

I applauded, then quoted hard-rocker for having the sense to post about football being "a team" sport.
The rest was just poking a little fun at those who tend to blame certain players for losses.

Just tryin' to lighten up what has been a pretty gloomy place lately.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I wasn't specifically railing at you. Just the www in general.
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wpr
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11 years ago

I never said no one should give their
opinions. Everyone should be held accountable
in their jobs.
But look around the NFL. Are the Packers the only
team that has weaknesses?

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 


never said they weren't.


No GM or coach is perfect.



never said they were.


The Packers
have been better then most NFL teams in
the NFL for more then 20 years. We can count
the number of bad years on our fingers, and
have fingers left over.



yes they have.


Yet no team is perfect. No draft pick is a
sure thing. No one is right 100% of the time.



never said otherwise.


Ted and McCarthy have, all will make more
mistakes. I know they will try to correct them.



obviously. Just expressing an opinion as to what should have been done ad what they can do in the future.


I bet that if Aaron Rodgers wouldn't have got hurt the Packers
would be in 1st place in the division and
all this hand wringing wouldn't be going
on right now.



not quit true. even in the 15-1 season many could see flaws in team and expressed concern over them.


If this is a one year glitch, then it's not a
deal breaker. If they stink next year then
it might be time to clean house.



they have had the same issues for several years and have not addressed them.


If you disagree with me, you have every
right to. It's all just opinions.
I might be totally wrong.
I only base my opinions on what I think.
It would be a boring world if we all agreed all
the time!



yep.


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TheKanataThrilla
11 years ago

I didn't write the story. I don't know what he slant is. Ted did begin his tenor by drafting qbs. 4 in the first 4 years. Then quit. Only 1 in the next 5 years. I think the author was pointing out that he changed his philosophy. He should have mentioned the earlier years but his focus was on the more recent drafts and how that was different than Wolf. I think he should also have said the rules in the NFL have changed as well. Then again I don't know how much space he is allowed for the story. He could have said a lot of other things but probably didn't have time or space to do so.

Someone may say that there was no need to draft a qb when Rodgers is the qb for the team. I think his comparison was to say Wolf had Favre and he still drafted 7 qb in 9 years. Until 1999 (Aaron Brooks R4) he never drafted anyone higher than the 5th round yet ended up with a few decent (serviceable) qbs in Detmer, Brunell and Hasselbeck.

Personally I liked Ted having the flexibility to draft other positions than qb but he still can't neglect the position indefinitely. I have talked about FAs. I prefer the qb to come from the draft. Pick up one qb and keep him on the PS for 2-3 years before he gets bumped up to #2. Then stick someone else on the PS to develop. Unless Aaron goes down in the first year of the growth process someone will be on the team to back him up that has a 3-4 years in the system before he moves on like Flynn did.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Great post.

To me personally it is not the drafting that mattered until we lost Flynn. We were all pretty happy with our situation until Flynn signed his big contract. Unfortunately I think we probably got too comfortable with Flynn as the back-up that we did get complacent drafting-wise and unfortunately for the QB position learning the system is something that just doesn't happen over night and free agents need time to develop and in our present situation that is not the case.
nerdmann
11 years ago

Great post.

To me personally it is not the drafting that mattered until we lost Flynn. We were all pretty happy with our situation until Flynn signed his big contract. Unfortunately I think we probably got too comfortable with Flynn as the back-up that we did get complacent drafting-wise and unfortunately for the QB position learning the system is something that just doesn't happen over night and free agents need time to develop and in our present situation that is not the case.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Mike clearly planned on Coleman developing this TC.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
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11 years ago

Mike clearly planned on Coleman developing this TC.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



well yeah. You don't draft a kid if you don't think he is going to grow and develop.
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dhazer
11 years ago
I was just doing some reading and i came across something I am sure we would never see Ted Thompson do and that was to make a trade like the Rams did last year and they are really making out on it now. They traded away the #2 overall pick last year for he Redskins for the sixth pick and a second rounder that year, and the first round picks in 2013 and 2014.

So they dropped down 4 spots in the 1st round and got an extra 2nd round. But the Rams are really reaping the deal coming next year when as it stands right now would have the 2nd overall pick and if the Texans win a game or 2 could be the #1 overall pick and could very easily have 2 top 10 picks overall with their pick and then they still have 2 1st round picks next year.

That is a good way to start your rebuilding or filling of holes lol.

To bad we would never see anything like this from TT.
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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Zero2Cool
11 years ago

I was just doing some reading and i came across something I am sure we would never see Ted Thompson do and that was to make a trade like the Rams did last year and they are really making out on it now. They traded away the #2 overall pick last year for he Redskins for the sixth pick and a second rounder that year, and the first round picks in 2013 and 2014.

So they dropped down 4 spots in the 1st round and got an extra 2nd round. But the Rams are really reaping the deal coming next year when as it stands right now would have the 2nd overall pick and if the Texans win a game or 2 could be the #1 overall pick and could very easily have 2 top 10 picks overall with their pick and then they still have 2 1st round picks next year.

That is a good way to start your rebuilding or filling of holes lol.

To bad we would never see anything like this from TT.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



You're right, because it's highly unlikely a team he's built would be drafting #2 overall.
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dhazer
11 years ago

You're right, because it's highly unlikely a team he's built would be drafting #2 overall.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I knew someone would say that but ummm how quickly we forget that we picked Raji high and same with Hawk. But your right we never draft that high lol
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
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