Has Packer Nation Gone Off the Deep End?· Page 3

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

Quite a few on this board were pissed off about the Packers 15 - 1 season defensive performance. I think it was NFL worst in pass defense and many were saying that won't cut it in the post season. They were right.

Dulak
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#22

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I dont know - that last game vs the giants ...

I had been watching the giants since mid season then and they were coming into their own like the pack was in 2010. Let me put it this way - even thou the pack is my fav team ... my money was put on the giants to win the SB that year. Odds were better and they looked like the better team ...

anyways ... IMO pack was still good that year ... this year reminds me of 2008 season except Alot worse.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Yeah, I don't get this argument at all. I remember MANY being upset with the Packers for many years now. Most of us have bitched about the offensive line for YEARS. Same goes for the defense, for the most part. Same for the running backs, as well. How does anyone get the idea that most "everyone" was OK with everything in recent seasons? Exceptions do not define the norm. I think most on this board were very aware of the weaknesses of this team, especially the past couple of seasons. To say otherwise is arrogant.

Believe it or not, it is possible to enjoy a win while being more than aware of a teams weaknesses. But at least when one's team is winning, it gets them through another week where HOPEFULLY those weaknesses are address and mitigated. Unfortunately for the Packers, most of the weaknesses haven't been corrected, and many have stayed the same or gotten worse.

If one thinks it's an over-reaction to think that it's time for another defensive coordinator to get a chance, than I just disagree. I think the same about the offensive line coaching. Sometimes, it's just time for a change.

Yerko
Senior Member

11 years ago

#24

Saying "fire Ted" or "fire McCarthy" is a bit over the top. I'd call that going off the deep end.

By now, everyone should be aboard the "fire Capers" train. I wouldn't call that going off the deep end.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#25

Originally Posted by: Yerko

Again, exceptions do not define the norm. I don't think the majority of this board wants Ted or McCarthy fired, at least not yet. Although perhaps more of an argument could be made for McCarthy. There are always going to be out-of-touch loonies.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#26

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

Tex is an example of someone who is pissing himself a bit.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Laser Gunns
Senior Member

11 years ago

#27

Dom has shown no reason to be retained,
Mike McCarthy has done a shitty job, but has probably had the worst set of circumstances possible on his side of the ball. And he has a pretty positive history on his side.

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TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#28

The issues I rattled off were there the year we went 15-1, just 2 seasons ago.. yet no one wanted to talk about a flawed football team going into the playoffs. But now.. heads must roll.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z

I don't think that is entirely true. The reality of the KC loss exposed the team for what it truly was. When Rodgers wasn't on fire this team could even lose to a bottom-feeder. Look at the posts on this site going into the Giants playoff game, there were many of us who were not confident going into that game even with homefield because the bad weather exposed our one-dimensional team.

DakotaT
Select Member

11 years ago

#29

Dom has shown no reason to be retained,

Mike McCarthy has done a shitty job, but has probably had the worst set of circumstances possible on his side of the ball. And he has a pretty positive history on his side.

Originally Posted by: RajiRoar

There are many reasons that I want Dom gone, but the biggest is because BJ Raji is not benched. BJ is noticeably dogging it out there and he is still playing. That kind of shit doesn't fly with me.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: DoddPower

What a great post on the subject. I believe much the same. We've seen our problem areas, and they've largely gone unaddressed since 2011, with the exception of adding a running game, mainly Lacy, a proficient RB. Our run blocking on the OL is still very suspect, as if little has changed.

Defensively, we've set all time records for poor play in one area or another since winning SB XLV. That is really bad.

Both Ted and Mike are ultimately responsible for the growth or lack thereof in their personnel, and both have a responsibility to see that area of this team is progressing at an optimal level. If it isn't, then those areas should be addressed. Mike McCarthy needs to handle the staff issues. DC, Strength & Conditioning, STs and OL coaching have all had major issues for the last 3 seasons. If Mike won't handle it, then the responsibility falls on Ted.

As fans, we are just seeing what is wrong with this team, and hoping for a fix.

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