play2win
11 years ago

I meant when he coached the 49ers d? That was a 4-3 unit yes?

Well, seeing how the past 4 games teams have mopped the floor with our D maybe we need a guy who can get these guys fired and willing to hit people and make plays. I'll take the rah rah rah guys on D over guys like Capers who have the energy level of an old man playing checkers.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



No shit. Well put Mucky. =d>
musccy
11 years ago



What is the fascination some have with Greene? He seems like nothing more than a WWE loud mouth clown - ok for firing up players on the sidelines, but not equipped for any planning or scheming of a defense. Maybe THAT is why no other team has grabbed him.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Agreed 100% the lbs have been the target of as much complaining in recent years as about any position on the team and who coaches them? Yeah he spits when he yells, and cm3 had one good play in the sb when he gave him a rah rah speech, but I want a little more than that out of a dc and I don't understand what he has shown us to warrant all this praise and adoration
warhawk
11 years ago
What is hard for me to understand is how the run D could be very good and then become so horrendous.

How does that happen? It's like a light switch went off. They were giving up nothing on the ground and now can't stop anybody.

At least when we had Rodgers, Finley, and Cobb on offense and a stout run D there was hope where now there is none to be found.

I understand no Arod no offense but the run D completely disintegrating is just crazy.


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Mucky Tundra
11 years ago

Agreed 100% the lbs have been the target of as much complaining in recent years as about any position on the team and who coaches them? Yeah he spits when he yells, and cm3 had one good play in the sb when he gave him a rah rah speech, but I want a little more than that out of a dc and I don't understand what he has shown us to warrant all this praise and adoration

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Well, for the sake of clarifying he's the OLB coach and people point to him making guys like Zombo and Moses serviceable. (Edit: forgot to mention both guys were UDFAs).

Personally I wouldn't want him as DC as that is probably a bit too much for him.
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DakotaT
11 years ago

I forgot Mike was out there. I like his passion too. 👍

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Which is why I'm Sensai of the Dojo, and you're, well Wayne! [grin1]
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Mucky Tundra
11 years ago

Which is why I'm Sensai of the Dojo, and you're, well Wayne! [grin1]

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



What Dojo would that be?:-k
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DakotaT
11 years ago

What is hard for me to understand is how the run D could be very good and then become so horrendous.

How does that happen? It's like a light switch went off. They were giving up nothing on the ground and now can't stop anybody.

At least when we had Rodgers, Finley, and Cobb on offense and a stout run D there was hope where now there is none to be found.

I understand no Arod no offense but the run D completely disintegrating is just crazy.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



I always get shit for this, but why is it when we beat up the weak sisters of the league we are awesome - and then we get mud stomped by a real good well balanced, well coached team and we turn in to dog shit. Stats mean absolutely nothing in this game. Football will always be won and lost in the trenches and the guys in our trenches lack heart, conditioning, and more importantly talent.

Aaron Rodgers getting hurt is the best thing that happened to this team because now we know what we really have.

Imaging what the Saints would do to this team in the Superdome right now.
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DarkaneRules
11 years ago

What is hard for me to understand is how the run D could be very good and then become so horrendous.

How does that happen? It's like a light switch went off. They were giving up nothing on the ground and now can't stop anybody.

At least when we had Rodgers, Finley, and Cobb on offense and a stout run D there was hope where now there is none to be found.

I understand no Arod no offense but the run D completely disintegrating is just crazy.

Originally Posted by: warhawk 



My opinion is this. It starts up front and that is where we find some bad news.

Pickett is wearing down. It is sad to see but there can be little other explanations and others claim to be seeing first hand in the press. He is a prideful man and has played incredibly well for this team for a long time. But the tread in the tires wears thin for him now and he is apparently playing injured.

Jolly is also playing injured and proving to be just as ineffective and I think he knows it. You can tell by his body language. He probably just didn't have the physical ability to play the whole season. He was playing well in the beginning and has gotten worse since. Again, this is sad to see but all too real.

Then you have backers. They have been exposed and the best guys probably at this point to fill in the gaps are either injured and can't play or are on IR, so it is unfortunately going to be a situation like the DL where we just have to finish the season with the guys we got...
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Mucky Tundra
11 years ago

Imaging what the Saints would do to this team in the Superdome right now.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



They'd put up 60 points easy and I knew that before yesterday which is why I didn't want this team to come anywhere near the playoffs. But apparently that makes me a "Doom and Gloomer"
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play2win
11 years ago

I always get shit for this, but why is it when we beat up the weak sisters of the league we are awesome - and then we get mud stomped by a real good well balanced, well coached team and we turn in to dog shit. Stats mean absolutely nothing in this game. Football will always be won and lost in the trenches and the guys in our trenches lack heart, conditioning, and more importantly talent.

Aaron Rodgers getting hurt is the best thing that happened to this team because now we know what we really have.

Imaging what the Saints would do to this team in the Superdome right now.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



This is SO TRUE Dakota. We have a really shitty team, for the most part.

Our best players are: Rodgers, Sitton, Lacy, Nelson, Matthews, Cobb, and Tramon Williams. That does not make a team. At this point, I consider these players to be our best and most difficult to replace. No one else falls into this category. That is telling. 7 out of 53...
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