gbguy20
11 years ago

MM went for it, because it would of been an 8 point game if they had got it. But I was against it and said so before the play.

My general rule for two point plays, is don't go for them unless they

1) Tie the game

2) Put you in a 3 or 7 point lead

3) Put you in a 3 or 7 point trail.

(maybe 4 if the game is over and the points don't matter)

Other wise they effect the 3 pointers, just like Mike McCarthy call did. Took the 3 points from being a winner ot making the just a tier.



ummm yes it did. It made getting 10 points, a tie instead of a win. That is a worse position.




without question? I questioned it very much at the time. I can't blame him for trying, but it without question was NOT the right choice.

And I promise you Mike McCarthy wasn't thinking his only option was a tie...

Originally Posted by: beast 



You think mccarthy expected to have time for anything but a tie? There was what? 10 minutes or less left in the game? the last 2 weeks our opponent has been able to completely run the clock out at that point. MN was running right through us and you think he expected us to stop them twice?

He expected 1 more possession if he was LUCKY and knew he had to make it a 1 possession game.

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beast
11 years ago

You think mccarthy expected to have time for anything but a tie? There was what? 10 minutes or less left in the game? the last 2 weeks our opponent has been able to completely run the clock out at that point. MN was running right through us and you think he expected us to stop them twice?

He expected 1 more possession if he was LUCKY and knew he had to make it a 1 possession game.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



Yes MM expected to WIN the game... not tie the game. You don't play to tie (or shouldn't)... maybe you're right, he was playing to tie the game (and not to win) and that's why we tied (and not won).


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11 years ago

Yes Mike McCarthy expected to WIN the game... not tie the game. You don't play to tie (or shouldn't)... maybe you're right, he was playing to tie the game (and not to win) and that's why we tied (and not won).

Originally Posted by: beast 



A tie leads to overtime
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gbguy20
11 years ago

Yes Mike McCarthy expected to WIN the game... not tie the game. You don't play to tie (or shouldn't)... maybe you're right, he was playing to tie the game (and not to win) and that's why we tied (and not won).

Originally Posted by: beast 



If mccarthy expected to have time he wouldn't have gone for 2. it's that simple. He was playing to get those 16 points that he needed to force overtime and win it then. He clearly didn't expect to have enough time for that extra possession. Nor did anyone else, except for you, apparently.
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steveishere
11 years ago
I dont see the problem. To kick there would be expecting to pull off 3 straight 4th q scoring drives with your 4th string qb and a defense that cant stop the run. Mike rightfully expected to probably only get the ball once more. This is a perfec case of hindsight being 20/20. Mike coached for the more likely scenario.
sschind
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11 years ago
according to the play by play on CBS sports there were about 11:40 seconds left after Lacy scored. Any coach who EXPECTS to have only 1 possession with more than 11 minutes left is an idiot (Of course some might say I am on to something with that)
texaspackerbacker
11 years ago

If you guys are going to question a decision today, don't question the call for 2. Question the decision to throw the ball on 3rd down at the goal line in overtime instead of handing it to lacy.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



True. Run it on 3rd; Run it on 4th; And if we don't win the game, we give it to them on the half yard line. THAT to me is more of a slam dunk than either going for 2 or not going for 2.


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luigis
11 years ago
I didn't like it because you are assuming you will need yet another 2 point conversion to tie the game.

The odds are not good for 2 point conversions in a row so I think that statistically speaking MM was wrong. It would have been right with 3 minutes on the clock of course because bad odds are better than no odds at all.

With the time we had in the clock I think 3 posessions was more likely than scoring two 2 point conversions one after the other.


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nerdmann
11 years ago

according to the play by play on CBS sports there were about 11:40 seconds left after Lacy scored. Any coach who EXPECTS to have only 1 possession with more than 11 minutes left is an idiot (Of course some might say I am on to something with that)

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Keep in mind what happened in recent weeks vis a vis teams draining 7 and 9 minutes off the clock to seal our defeat.
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gbguy20
11 years ago

Keep in mind what happened in recent weeks vis a vis teams draining 7 and 9 minutes off the clock to seal our defeat.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



exactly.
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