zombieslayer
16 years ago

That's why I think the ONLY legit comparison is comparing today's QBs with today's QBs, and Rodgers is in the top 10 among 32, easily.

"longtimefan" wrote:



okay Aaron Rodgers this year


28 tds ( 4 rushing ) for 32 total TDS

13 ints ( 3 lost fumbles total of 16 t/o )

4038 yards



Brett last year

28 tds

15 ints ( 3 lost fumbles total of 18 t/o )

4155 yards


Looks to me Aaron Rodgers got even better production Brett last year

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I was intentionally avoiding comparing the two. This can only lead to trouble.
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longtimefan
16 years ago

That's why I think the ONLY legit comparison is comparing today's QBs with today's QBs, and Rodgers is in the top 10 among 32, easily.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



okay Aaron Rodgers this year


28 tds ( 4 rushing ) for 32 total TDS

13 ints ( 3 lost fumbles total of 16 t/o )

4038 yards



Brett last year

28 tds

15 ints ( 3 lost fumbles total of 18 t/o )

4155 yards


Looks to me Aaron Rodgers got even better production Brett last year

"longtimefan" wrote:



I was intentionally avoiding comparing the two. This can only lead to trouble.

"zombieslayer" wrote:



You said this???

That's why I think the ONLY legit comparison is comparing today's QBs with today's QBs,



So why say that if your not wanting the comparisons to start?
zombieslayer
16 years ago

That's why I think the ONLY legit comparison is comparing today's QBs with today's QBs, and Rodgers is in the top 10 among 32, easily.

"longtimefan" wrote:



okay Aaron Rodgers this year


28 tds ( 4 rushing ) for 32 total TDS

13 ints ( 3 lost fumbles total of 16 t/o )

4038 yards



Brett last year

28 tds

15 ints ( 3 lost fumbles total of 18 t/o )

4155 yards


Looks to me Aaron Rodgers got even better production Brett last year

"zombieslayer" wrote:



I was intentionally avoiding comparing the two. This can only lead to trouble.

"longtimefan" wrote:



You said this???

That's why I think the ONLY legit comparison is comparing today's QBs with today's QBs,

"zombieslayer" wrote:



So why say that if your not wanting the comparisons to start?



Longtime - Oh, I meant specifically comparing those 2.
I was comparing all the QBs to Aaron, and showing he's definitely a top 10 QB (and I think even higher).
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porky88
16 years ago
It'd be one thing if Rodgers wasn't ranking in the top ten of just about every solid passing category, but the fact is he is and that's encouraging. To try and discredit his season because he's not Brett Favre is ridiculous.

On the flip side, comparing him to a list of Hall of Fame QB's is also ridiculous. Yes the numbers are nice to see, but if you look hard enough you can find quite a few 4th year QB's who were great and then fell off the map.

Google Aaron Brooks whom wasn't bad himself.
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16 years ago
Aaron Brooks is awesome. Local guy to my neck of the woods.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago

When you throw in the fact that he's following a sure hall of famer (look at how QB's in Miami and Denver have done) and everything that happened in the off season - it's even more impressive :thumbright:

"joym13" wrote:



This is a silly argument, in my opinion. The fact he's following a hall of famer is completely irrelevant to his performance. Just because other teams didn't have the foresight and scouting acumen to successfully replace their legends doesn't mean the Packers were doomed to repeat their mistakes. I don't buy the idea that following a great player somehow weighs on the successor's mind.

If Rodgers were so mentally weak that he couldn't stand on his own two feet, he wouldn't have belonged in the NFL.
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go.pack.go.
16 years ago

defense is as good if not better

"Gravedigga" wrote:



You're kidding, right? The Jets defense is way better than ours. Many of those Jets game won were because of their defense. Many of those Jets game lost were because of Favre's interceptions.
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dfosterf
16 years ago
Many deleted posts.

Go Back.

Read the original post.

Stop. Think.

Then, reply

Stay on topic.

Broken thread? It was this or wipe the whole thing out.

Stay civil, too, please.
macbob
16 years ago

Some of those are current (Manning, Brady...oh, and Favre 🙂 ).


Rodgers exceeded my expectations this year. I think as he gets more experience under his belt he's got the potential to be a truly special quarterback.

"dhazer" wrote:




Brady would be the best one to compare with but as far as Favre and Manning even back then the game was different you were allowed to play defense in the 90's and the qbs could be hit, compared to now where the Qbs have their tutu's on and noone can touch them without a flag and everything is pass interference with DBs. Like i said you could compare with Brady but i would think thats about it. But stats are stats and you can compare them any way you want it.

"macbob" wrote:



Yeah, some rules changes have favored the offense and others have favored the defense (DBs can now force you out and it's an incomplete pass, narrowing the field and shrinking the endzone).

So lets just compare him to QBs that played this year, then.

Rodgers finished 6th in the NFL in QB rating (93.8), behind Phil Rivers, Chad Pennington, Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, and Peyton Manning. He was 4th in yds (4038) behind Drew Brees, Kurt Warner, and Jay Cutler. He was 4th in TDs (28) behind Drew Brees, Phil Rivers, and Kurt Warner. 10th in completion percentage, and 9th in yds per attempt.

Pretty good stats for his first year starting. Pretty good stats for a guy who separated his shoulder and played through it.
16 years ago
A couple really big stats that people seem to leave out is. He has a red zone rating of something like 104.2 and a 3rd down rating somewhere around 103.7
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