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TheEngineer
15 years ago
Over at FinHeaven.com, there is a debate raging on whether Rodgers or Ronnie Brown was the right pick at #2. Breed, one of the posters, had an outstanding post looking at career stats.

Career drop backs per sack:
(Peyton) Manning: 30.45
Ryan: 28.63
Brees: 27.43
Cutler: 23.86
(Eli) Manning: 20.75
Favre: 20.68
Brady: 19.49
Rivers: 18.93
Flacco: 16.65
McNabb: 14.42
Rodgers: 12.46
Roethlisberger: 11.13

Career passer rating (doesn't account for sacks, sack yardage or fumbles lost):
(Peyton) Manning: 95.2
Rodgers: 93.4
Rivers: 92.7
Brady: 92.5
Brees: 90
Roethlisberger: 90
Ryan: 89.9
Cutler: 87.3
McNabb: 85.8
Favre: 85.7
Flacco: 83.9
(Eli) Manning: 77.6

Career passing net average (passing yards - sack yardage/passing attempts + sacks):
Ryan: 7.29
(Peyton) Manning: 7.24
Rivers: 6.84
Cutler: 6.80
Brees: 6.69
Roethlisberger: 6.59
Brady: 6.51
Rodgers: 6.41
Favre: 6.36
Flacco: 6.10
McNabb: 5.91
(Eli) Manning: 5.85

Career ypc:
McNabb: 5.8
Rodgers: 4.3
Cutler: 3.6
Favre: 3.2
Roethlisberger: 3.2
Flacco: 3.2
(Peyton) Manning: 2.3
Brees: 2
(Eli) Manning: 2
Brady: 1.9
Ryan: 1.7
Rivers: 1.5

Career net average (passing yards + rushing yards - sack yardage/passing attempts + rushing attempts + sacks):
(Peyton) Manning: 7.00
Ryan: 6.73
Cutler: 6.55
Rivers: 6.48
Brees: 6.42
Roethlisberger: 6.32
Brady: 6.21
Rodgers: 6.20
Favre: 6.18
McNabb: 5.90
Flacco: 5.83
(Eli) Manning: 5.68

Career completion %:
(Peyton) Manning: 64.6
Brees: 64.1
Roethlisberger: 63.2
Brady: 62.9
Rodgers: 62.7
Cutler: 62.6
Rivers: 62
Ryan: 61.9
Favre: 61.7
Flacco: 60.8
McNabb: 58.9
(Eli) Manning: 56.2

Career attempts per touchdown (passing touchdowns + rushing touchdowns/passing attempts + rushing attempts + sacks):
(Peyton) Manning: 18.44
Roethlisberger: 20.74
Rivers: 20.77
Brady: 20.87
Favre: 21.53
Rodgers: 21.73
Brees: 22.82
Cutler: 23.18
McNabb: 23.24
(Eli) Manning: 24.27
Ryan: 27.5
Flacco: 28.38

Career attempts per turnover (interceptions + fumbles lost/passing attempts + rushing attempts + sacks)
Ryan: 46.54
Flacco: 40.06
Rodgers: 39.5
McNabb: 38.97
Brady: 36.61
(Peyton) Manning: 35.78
Brees: 34.62
Rivers: 33.7
Cutler: 30
(Eli) Manning: 28.75
Roethlisberger: 27.81
Favre: 27.75

Career touchdown/turnover:
(Peyton) Manning: 1.94
Rodgers: 1.82
Brady: 1.75
Ryan: 1.69
McNabb: 1.68
Rivers: 1.62
Brees: 1.52
Flacco: 1.41
Roethlisberger: 1.34
Favre: 1.29
Cutler: 1.29
(Eli) Manning: 1.19

4th quarter within 7
Rivers: 88.9 passer rating (222/385, 2,819 passing yards, 22 touchdowns/10 interceptions)
(Peyton) Manning: 85 passer rating (773/1,268, 9,025 passing yards, 63 touchdowns/43 interceptions)
Rodgers: 84.5 passer rating (105/181, 1,361passing yards, 9 touchdowns/6 interceptions)
Roethlisberger: 84.4 passer rating (299/476, 3,528 passing yards, 25 touchdowns/21 interceptions)
Brady: 83.9 passer rating (457/760, 5,242 passing yards, 38 touchdowns/25 interceptions)
Cutler: 83.7 passer rating (188/316, 2,229 passing yards, 15 touchdowns/10 interceptions)
Ryan: 83 passer rating (56/96, 624 passing yards, 4 touchdowns/2 interceptions)
Brees: 81.7 passer rating (529/865, 6,048 passing yards, 40 touchdowns/33 interceptions)
(Eli) Manning: 81.2 passer rating (327/556, 3,832 passing yards, 31 touchdowns/23 interceptions)
McNabb: 79.5 passer rating (468/849, 5,165 passing yards, 38 touchdowns/18 interceptions)
Flacco: 76.4 passer rating (67/106, 831 passing yards, 4 touchdowns/6 interceptions)
*Not all of Favre's stats were available*

Tied
(Peyton) Manning: 106.3 passer rating (846/1,271, 10,590 passing yards, 76 touchdowns/18 interceptions)
Cutler: 96.4 passer rating (162/264, 1,953 passing yards, 16 touchdowns/5 interceptions)
Brady: 95.5 passer rating (714/1,073, 7,572 passing yards, 45 touchdowns/14 interceptions)
Brees: 95.4 passer rating (476/723, 5,371 passing yards, 40 touchdowns/19 interceptions)
Rodgers: 89.4 passer rating (108/170, 1,123 passing yards, 6 touchdowns, 2 interceptions)
Ryan: 86.7 passer rating (67/113, 896 passing yards, 7 touchdowns/5 interceptions)
Roethlisberger: 84.6 passer rating (357/571, 4,522 passing yards, 23 touchdowns/22 interceptions)
(Eli) Manning: 84.4 passer rating (285/486, 3,402 passing yards, 25 touchdowns/15 interceptions)
McNabb: 82.6 passer rating (563/982, 6,326 passing yards, 40 touchdowns, 18 interceptions)
Rivers: 78.4 passer rating (221/375, 2,630 passing yards, 14 touchdowns/13 interceptions)
Flacco: 66.1 passer rating (67/133, 843 passing yards, 2 touchdowns/3 interceptions)
*Not all of Favre's stats were available*

Behind by 1-8 points
Rodgers: 99.8 passer rating (64/108, 793 passing yards, 7 touchdowns/1 interception)
Roethlisberger: 98.8 passer rating (187/275, 2,140 passing yards, 20 touchdowns/11 interceptions)
Rivers: 96.7 passer rating (196/308, 2,474 passing yards, 20 touchdowns/10 interceptions)
Cutler: 90 passer rating (143/230, 1,733 passing yards, 12 touchdowns/7 interceptions)
(Peyton) Manning: 88.4 passer rating (521/830, 6,158 passing yards, 44 touchdowns/29 interceptions)
McNabb: 80 passer rating (212/400, 2,515 passing yards, 19 touchdowns/8 interceptions)
Ryan: 75.9 passer rating (76/118, 837 passing yards, 3 touchdowns/2 interceptions)
Flacco: 75.8 passer rating (42/69, 420 passing yards, 2 touchdowns/2 interceptions)
Brady: 74.3 passer rating (240/432, 2,562 passing yards, 14 touchdowns/10 interceptions)
(Eli) Manning: 73.3 passer rating (204/375, 2,290 passing yards, 18 touchdowns/14 interceptions)
Brees: 72.6 passer rating (358/595, 4,031 passing yards, 21 touchdowns/28 interceptions)
*Not all of Favre's stats were available*

Ahead 1-8 points
Ryan: 107.6 passer rating (85/126, 1,110 passing yards, 6 touchdowns/1 interception)
(Peyton) Manning: 99.6 passer rating (991/1,493, 11,911 passing yards, 90 touchdowns/40 interceptions)
Flacco: 98.5 passer rating (112/185, 1,382 passing yards, 12 touchdowns/3 interceptions)
Brees: 96.7 passer rating (478/718, 5,144 passing yards, 40 touchdowns/16 interceptions)
Rodgers: 95.6 passer rating (71/116, 903 passing yards, 6 touchdowns/2 interceptions)
Brady: 94.4 passer rating (659/1,073, 8,202 passing yards, 56 touchdowns/21 interceptions)
McNabb: 91.5 passer rating (676/1,095, 8,014 passing yards, 52 touchdowns/22 interceptions)
Cutler: 88.6 passer rating (149/226, 1,714 passing yards, 10 touchdowns/8 interceptions)
Roethlisberger: 85.4 passer rating (301/502, 3,740 passing yards, 26 touchdowns/18 interceptions)
(Eli) Manning: 81.7 passer rating (279/494, 3,176 passing yards, 26 touchdowns/14 interceptions)
Rivers: 81.2 passer rating (139/243, 1,950 passing yards, 9 touchdowns/8 interceptions)
*Not all Favre's stats were available*

Behind by 9-16 points
Rodgers: 100.8 passer rating (116/175, 1,644 pasing yards, 11 touchdowns/7 interceptions)
Rivers: 90.8 passer rating (282/459, 3,490 passing yards, 23 touchdowns/12 interceptions)
Roethlisberger: 90.7 passer rating (375/586, 4,785 passing yards, 31 touchdowns/23 interceptions)
Brady: 87.7 passer rating (544/865, 6,191 passing yards, 45 touchdowns/29 interceptions)
Ryan: 86.7 passer rating (76/118, 837 passing yards, 3 touchdowns/2 interceptions)
Brees: 85.4 passer rating (652/1,023, 7,233 passing yards, 36 touchdowns/27 interceptions)
(Peyton) Manning: 82.8 passer rating (955/1,546, 10,983 passing yards, 62 touchdowns/51 interceptions)
Cutler: 80.3 passer rating (207/349, 2,574 passing yards, 13 touchdowns/12 interceptions)
McNabb: 79 passer rating (700/1,234, 7,947 passing yards, 54 touchdowns/35 interceptions)
(Eli) Manning: 76.7 passer rating (415/725, 4,922 passing yards, 27 touchdowns/24 interceptions)
Flacco: 64.6 passer rating (58/101, 715 passing yards, 3 touchdowns/6 interceptions)
*Not all Favre's stats were available*



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dhazer
15 years ago
Nice stats but the major flaw is if you notice how Ryan, Flacco and Rodgers are towards the top and besides Peyton Manning not many of the qbs that have played for a long time are on the list. I mean your comparing career stats of 1 year against 10 year stats of course the 1 year starters will be on top of most categories.


But like i said good stats
Just Imagine this for the next 6-9 years. What a ride it will be 🙂 (PS, Zero should charge for this)
reed
TheEngineer
15 years ago
Considering players have a natural tendency to perform well once they become veterans in the league, I think it is exceedingly rare that Ryan, Flacco, Rodgers and Roethlisberger are so capable relative to their more experienced peers.

Could they regress statistically? Absolutely. But chances are equally good that they can maintain a high level of play or improve as QBs as they become more experienced.
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