This was mildly the point I tried to bring up a couple of weeks ago.. the Brass Tacks thread.. part was to see how the board would handle the discussion.. part was this.. he hasn't walked off the field with the W in the close ones.

No that isn't all on him.. the team lost those games.

But it is a monkey at this point.. but as Greg mentioned.. that isn't a terrible thing.. other than us losing the games.. he has played well for the most part and that will come.. he has the poise to do it.

Is it luck?

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Long can you take off the Rodgers goggles for a bit and realize we had the ball with time on the clock against what 4 teams and under 2 minutes to go and i have to look up the stats but i believe rodgers has 3 ints in those situations i'm not sure of the exact figure but i will look it up.

Mass you brought some good points but your saying hes a solid qb and can handle the pressure and stuff but yet how do you know he will play like he did the 1st 5 games the rest of his career. My opinion is he screwed himself by taking the contract i think some of the other players didn't like that idea and maybe they aren't trying as hard (imo).

Back to Long i understand your frustrated because now some of the media is turning on your hero so you don't want to face the true facts.

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Top ten QB his first season, the guy's a bum! Get rid if him!

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Aaron Rodgers is not one of the GBP that I am disappointed in this year. Those two games he ended with interceptions, both of them he rushed or forced the play and it was obviously a mistake. It seems to me a certain beloved quarterback did the same thing to end our season last year.

I don't think Aaron needs to do much more than he already has this year. I am very pleased with him. He has a long career ahead of him to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

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When the numbers are so small they mean very little, statistically. You have to look at the circumstances because this is anecdotal evidence.

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Rodgers hasn't cured cancer yet either. total bum.

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No, luck has not been on our side this season. It really isn't fair, because I think Rodgers is a great quarterback. He will prove doubters wrong eventually.

You're willing to let him gain experience? What kind of Packer fan are you El3ment12?

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MASS Those stats are from the final 5 minutes of a game so it is situational

I finished the Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco stats also and boy what a difference a defensive team and a running team can make

Matt Ryan with the running game

42 attempts 20 completions 216 yards 1 td 0 int with 5 games with no attempts


Joe Flacco with a great defense and some running

21 attempts 15 completions 214 yards 2 Tds 1 ints with 7 games with no attempts and out of his stats he had a game against the Colts where he was 10-13 for 123 yards those are just some crazy stats.


Rodgers only had the 2 games where he had no attempts. So back to the point of Rodgers being a closer he has 1 td out of of 11 games. Ok so now don't tell me these aren't facts because i went thru the drive logs of each game.

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If Crappy Kyle snortin' Orton can do it for the Bears does anyone really have any doubt Rodgers can?

I have seen several QB's that can't carry Rodgers jockstrap to the stadium lead a comeback from time to time.

I'd rather have a QB that does his job and then let the defense finish it off than a Kyle Orton who has to pull his fat out of the fryer after sucking wind all game long.

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