PackerTraxx
12 years ago
We don't have an elite receiver IMO. We do have an elite receiving corps. We are deep in very good and good receivers. If we ever get an elite receiver and maintain that depth it would be unreal how good the O could be. But that will be very hard to do because of the cap and keeping our core players. Also, we would have to be lucky to get one in the draft because, hopefully, our position is always late in the rounds.
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Stevetarded
12 years ago

Elite starters, as in Jennings and Nelson, yes.
Elite set of WR, as in the whole 5 or 6, no.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



As a group of 5 I can't think of any other teams set I would take over ours. I would consider that elite.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

As a group of 5 I can't think of any other teams set I would take over ours. I would consider that elite.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 



That doesn't make them an elite group, that makes them the best group in the NFL via your opinion.
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Stevetarded
12 years ago

That doesn't make them an elite group, that makes them the best group in the NFL via your opinion.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Well convince me of another team having a stronger set of 5 WRs. If they as a group are among the best in the NFL they are elite.
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blueleopard
12 years ago
We overrate them just a tad bit.

Aaron Rodgers is a careful thrower of the football who won't let his WRs get hurt when throwing. While that's smart, I believe that's his achilles heel.. Defenses know our strength is in our passing game, so they're just gonna keep playing more close zone and man-to-man. Unless Rodgers grows a pair and starts to fit more passes in small places, trusting his receivers more --- it'll be a long season offensively.
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DakotaT
12 years ago

We overrate them just a tad bit.

Aaron Rodgers is a careful thrower of the football who won't let his WRs get hurt when throwing. While that's smart, I believe that's his achilles heel.. Defenses know our strength is in our passing game, so they're just gonna keep playing more close zone and man-to-man. Unless Rodgers grows a pair and starts to fit more passes in small places, trusting his receivers more --- it'll be a long season offensively.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Sorry, but I watched enough reckless football from 1999 through 2007, with no hardware put in the trophy case. I'll take the more conservative route and watch our offense run correctly. I just hope our young defense gets coached up quickly.
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buckeyepackfan
12 years ago

Sorry, but I watched enough reckless football from 1999 through 2007, with no hardware put in the trophy case. I'll take the more conservative route and watch our offense run correctly. I just hope our young defense gets coached up quickly.

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zombieslayer
12 years ago

Sorry, but I watched enough reckless football from 1999 through 2007, with no hardware put in the trophy case. I'll take the more conservative route and watch our offense run correctly. I just hope our young defense gets coached up quickly.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



It was reckless because it had to be. In that time period, we had zero elite Ds and only twice in the top 10.

If a D can't make a stop, you gotta play to score on almost every drive. It's a team effort. If one side sucks, the other side has to compensate.

IF the rest of the season, the D looks like game 1, we're gonna have to be super aggressive. IF the rest of the season, the D looks like game 2, then we'll have the LUXURY of playing the conservative route.
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Pack93z
12 years ago
I think when talking about this subject, context would be important. Elite in the current league of today?

I would say we are in that company, ask yourself this, who else in the league can trot out a talent like Jones or Driver as their 4th or 5th option?

But if the context is are each of them elite independently... no I don't think so. I don't think one of them are an elite talent compares with Megatron, Andre Johnson, or Fitz.

Finley has all the tools to be elite in his role, in some respects he is, but has some work to do yet to get there. Drops being in the forefront.. but blocking as well. But few possess his ability to go inside and out and pose the issues he does.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

I think when talking about this subject, context would be important. Elite in the current league of today?

I would say we are in that company, ask yourself this, who else in the league can trot out a talent like Jones or Driver as their 4th or 5th option?

But if the context is are each of them elite independently... no I don't think so. I don't think one of them are an elite talent compares with Megatron, Andre Johnson, or Fitz.

Finley has all the tools to be elite in his role, in some respects he is, but has some work to do yet to get there. Drops being in the forefront.. but blocking as well. But few possess his ability to go inside and out and pose the issues he does.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



Yeah, that's what I was getting at.

Put our WR stack up against any other NFL team. Yes, Megatron > Gregorious. But then you go Megatron + Nate Burleson = Gregorious + Jordy. But then you go Megatron + Nate Burleson + Titus Young < Gregorious + Jordy + Jones or Driver. And when you get to the 4th level, I don't think there's any team that would be > than us.

Throw in TEs though and the Pats are arguably better than we are. Welker + Lloyd + Hernandez + Gronkowski is pretty close to Gregorious + Jordy + Jones or Driver + Finley. You could make cases either way.

So when you're arguing whether or not our stack is the #1 in the NFL, you got an elite stack.
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