TheEngineer
16 years ago
Well wouldn't you know it, McCarthy threw his headset in anger at the end of the Texans game. At least now I can sleep sound at night knowing he has some semblance of drive, fire, emotion, whatever you want to call it to win games.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
Yeah, I noticed that too. But he threw down the headset long after the outcome of the game was no longer in question, so it was a pointless display of emotion. It would have been better placed earlier in the game.
digsthepack
16 years ago
Losing is an acquired taste, and this team's tastebuds are savoring the flavor. Personally, this smacks of a team that spent the off-season reading headlines and lofty predicitions, and played all in.

Pleanty of blame to go around, and no.....Brett Favre would not have made a difference this year. The defense is the prime culprit, followed closely by special teams......if I might use the word "special" in that description.

Gonna be some big changes this off-season, and it starts with Sanders and Stock. MM better make players aware.....because they clearly do not understand at this point.....that they are playing for their living.

Funny thing is, I didn't even watch the game yeasteray as I was taking care of my sweetie on her B-Day....but called a friend who saw it and described how I saw the cgame unfold in my mind' eye......sadly, I callled it to a tee.

Just bad football, being executed by players who clearly have shut down receiving the inputs of their coaching staff.....dumbest football I have ever seen played.
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Pack93z
16 years ago

.....dumbest football I have ever seen played.

"digsthepack" wrote:



Players and/or coaches.. I agree.. any team that repeatedly makes the same mistakes over and over reeks of a disconnect between players and coaches..

One really has to wonder how the players really viewed this past offseason.. is there lingering effects in their minds.

No one can question how this team has rallied around Rodgers, so that isn't the point I am wondering.

I truly wonder how much disconnect there is between the coaching staff and players on this team.

MM has had a busy offseason, marriage, baby and more drama then all the soaps on the daytime can provide..

Add to it... Ted and MM are pretty locked down on these assistant coaches.. they have one interview a week and that is PR monitored.. speaks of a certain lack of trust... I wonder if that carries over into their coaching jobs as well.

I remember the mid 90's.. Fritz was very open and candid each week.. free to speak his mind, as well as other assistants.. not an overbearing organization that we are today..

We had a swagger about us.. today it is secretive.. like they are hiding things.. makes one wonder.
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Nonstopdrivel
16 years ago
I don't think they're necessarily hiding anything; I think it's more that the media has an axe to grind against the current administration, and the reporters spend their entire interview periods blatantly trying to goad Green Bay players and staff into criticizing the direction the team has taken, further contributing to the hoopla and drama the media, like a pack of hyenas, has fomented. It makes sense to me that the organization has circled its wagons.
Pack93z
16 years ago

It makes sense to me that the organization has circled its wagons.

"Nonstopdrivel" wrote:



08... I would understand.. but this has been the marching orders from day one.

I don't necessarily think they are hiding anything.. but they have the telltale signs of a overbearing organization that lacks trust through the ranks..

That there.. derails more companies from reaching potential than most other things.. not allowing people to full fill their potential, buy into the cause and become proactive and involved than just care taking and following commands.

Not saying that describes the Packers organization.. but from the outside it doesn't look healthy. I know I am stretching the abyss.. but something seems off.. we went from a very open organization to completely shutdown..

We are a publicly owned franchise.. seems to be disconnected at this point.

But I care less I guess.. as long as we rebound.
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