doddpower
12 years ago

Why Benson instead of Grant?
Anyone have a reasonable explanation?

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 




I think it's pretty simple: Benson is a better running back than Grant. That's my opinion, anyway. The difference may not be huge, but there is a difference.
zombieslayer
12 years ago

I think it's pretty simple: Benson is a better running back than Grant. That's my opinion, anyway. The difference may not be huge, but there is a difference.

Originally Posted by: doddpower 



How so? Do you mean Benson's actual running skills? They don't seem to be better than average. Or is it something else? Like pass protection?

Neither Grant nor Benson are decent receivers.

Please elaborate.
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12 years ago
ryan grant had a 2.7 ypc before december when teams starting begging us to run the ball.

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doddpower
12 years ago

How so? Do you mean Benson's actual running skills? They don't seem to be better than average. Or is it something else? Like pass protection?

Neither Grant nor Benson are decent receivers.

Please elaborate.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



He just seems like a better runner to be. Hits the hall hard, falls forward better, tough for one guy to bring him down. Admittedly, this is just the infamous "eye test" and I'm not even looking at the stats. The statistics could be misleading anyway given the differences in offenses now. I just feel like he is a more physical running back than Ryan Grant and overall more talented. I could easily be wrong, it's just what I see. Apparently I'm not alone, though. Although I must say, I'm not sure if his physical style is the best fit for our offense, but he should have a decent average in the Packer's offense against many 7 man fronts. Also, he is very similar to Ryan Grant in that he needs a lot of carries to really find his groove. Since that won't happen often, it will likely be a problem. If he makes the team, he very well might not be that successful. He won't get a ton of carries and he'll be splitting some time.
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12 years ago
My two cents (in current purchasing power...ahem):

Benson signed for less money.

Can't get much enthusiasm up for either one. Reminds me of the days of trying to get enthusiastic about Barty and Barry Smith. Bleh.
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doddpower
12 years ago

My two cents (in current purchasing power...ahem):

Benson signed for less money.

Can't get much enthusiasm up for either one. Reminds me of the days of trying to get enthusiastic about Barty and Barry Smith. Bleh.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Perhaps, but salary cap certainly isn't an issue for the Packer's currently. I think they have something like 11 million +. I suppose they need to keep as much open for future extensions, though. I imagine at least one big extension will happen during the upcoming season. Perhaps Jennings, CM3, or Raji?

zombieslayer
12 years ago
I hope CM3 gets locked up before he becomes a Perennial Pro Bowler.

I'm with Wade, except I don't really get excited about RBs anyways. You want a RB who is decent. If they're good, they demand money and that money will come out of important positions. Not a good thing.

So Benson's a perfect fit. Aging. Mediocre. Holds on to the football and can block. See, 🇹🇹 and I think alike at least when it comes to RBs. =d>
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vikesrule
12 years ago


You can't get one past Pop Psychologist Extraordinaire Dr. Zombieslayer. No siree bob. I know what's going on in that ol' head of his, even more than he does.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Dr.Zombieslayer, my ass.


By the way, I see that Benson's goal is 1000 yards this year....I like this guys comment from PFT.....

To reach 1,000 yards, he’ll have to overcome:
(1) not being the starter;
(2) playing on a pass first team;
(3) fumbling;
(4) the fact that he’s now nothing more than a short to mid-range RB;
(5) new to the Pack system;
(6) in worse shape than the rest of the league since his training camp start is late; and
(7) age.
Other than that, he should be fine.



zombieslayer
12 years ago

Dr.Zombieslayer, my ass.


By the way, I see that Benson's goal is 1000 yards this year....I like this guys comment from PFT.....



Originally Posted by: vikesrule 



Alright. I dropped out of Grad School and never finished my Masters. You caught me. Damn. Still, I bet I can fix relationships better than that Dr. Phil clown.

Still, Benson's a perfect fit for the Packers. I couldn't be happier. We get a RB who gets 3.8 yards a carry then falls down. As long as he falls down still holding the ball.

Running's not important in today's NFL. You got yourself the best RB in the past 5 years and look where it got you.
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steveishere
12 years ago

Alright. I dropped out of Grad School and never finished my Masters. You caught me. Damn. Still, I bet I can fix relationships better than that Dr. Phil clown.

Still, Benson's a perfect fit for the Packers. I couldn't be happier. We get a RB who gets 3.8 yards a carry then falls down. As long as he falls down still holding the ball.

Running's not important in today's NFL. You got yourself the best RB in the past 5 years and look where it got you.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Benson has fumbled 12 times the last 2 seasons. That seems like a lot to me.
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