Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Authority is delegated, responsibility isn't. Our defensive failures are on Murphy, Thompson, McCarthy and Capers. If they were running a sub squadron, (for example- non Marine reference for once, lol) chances are decent they would have all been relieved of their duties.

"Yes, we sunk many boats last year, but ultimately we lost as our crews failed to execute in the end, and we will correct it this year." Ya, that dog would surely hunt in the Navy.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Unfortunately, teams are only allowed 53 players for their active roster during the season. Cullen Jenkins took less to leave, so that can't be put on the Packers, unless you think they should have overpaid Jenkins before free agency and his market value was set.

This is football, not the military. Sooner you realize that, sooner your stress level will subside. [grin1]
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dfosterf
12 years ago
The same leadership principles apply, and all deviations could be viewed as a dilution of those principles. The military reference I made was an example of how leadership works when it really fucking matters, but I believe is also illustrative of how that gets deflected and diluted by those in charge of the football thing, and accepted by those absorbing the explanations... the fans.

I guess I could have used the girl-scouts as a point of reference, but I don't have an adequate depth of knowledge as to how they roll, other than having the personal opinion that they put out a pretty darn good cookie for the money.
Stevetarded
12 years ago
One thing to keep in mind is what Capers had to work with. 5 of his starters (Walden, Wynn, Peprah, T. Williams, Raji) ended up for some reason or another playing some of the worst football in the league at their respective positions. That's gotta be pretty tough to overcome and not all the coordinators fault. Not to mention only having 1 legitimate pass rusher.
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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago

Authority is delegated, responsibility isn't. Our defensive failures are on Murphy, Thompson, McCarthy and Capers. If they were running a sub squadron, (for example- non Marine reference for once, lol) chances are decent they would have all been relieved of their duties.

"Yes, we sunk many boats last year, but ultimately we lost as our crews failed to execute in the end, and we will correct it this year." Ya, that dog would surely hunt in the Navy.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



15-1 loss exchange ratio isn't bad.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

One thing to keep in mind is what Capers had to work with. 5 of his starters (Walden, Wynn, Peprah, T. Williams, Raji) ended up for some reason or another playing some of the worst football in the league at their respective positions. That's gotta be pretty tough to overcome and not all the coordinators fault. Not to mention only having 1 legitimate pass rusher.

Originally Posted by: stevetarded 



They had down years because the defensive play calling wasn't aggressive enough. When the defensive play calls for the games are posted, we'll show you whats up! Muwahahaha


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zombieslayer
12 years ago

One thing to keep in mind is what Capers had to work with. 5 of his starters (Walden, Wynn, Peprah, T. Williams, Raji) ended up for some reason or another playing some of the worst football in the league at their respective positions. That's gotta be pretty tough to overcome and not all the coordinators fault. Not to mention only having 1 legitimate pass rusher.

Originally Posted by: stevetarded 



Yes, and that one legitimate pass rusher seemed like he was more often than not in coverage.
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steveishere
12 years ago

Yes, and that one legitimate pass rusher seemed like he was more often than not in coverage.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



When teams are consistently devoting 2 or 3 players to block a single guy every play it probably doesn't do much good to keep sending him in there.
PackerTraxx
12 years ago
We're fortunat to have Capers IMO. I understand wanting to be more aggressive, I feel the same way myself at times, but when there is not the talent to back it up it can get real ugly, real quick. I'm hoping things will change for the better this year with the influx of new players/talent.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

We're fortunat to have Capers IMO. I understand wanting to be more aggressive, I feel the same way myself at times, but when there is not the talent to back it up it can get real ugly, real quick. I'm hoping things will change for the better this year with the influx of new players/talent.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



I'm still eagerly waiting for zombieslayer to share with us how he knows the defensive play calls were not aggressive. Imagine the things we can do with knowing what the play call was? Especially now that we have access to the coaches film! I'm ready to tinkle I'm so excited. I don't know why he's holding out though ... 🤔
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nerdmann
12 years ago

When teams are consistently devoting 2 or 3 players to block a single guy every play it probably doesn't do much good to keep sending him in there.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



If one of our guys is keeping 2 or 3 of their guys busy, that means we've got 1 or 2 guys extra to get to the QB or maintain coverage.
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