DakotaT
12 years ago
I don't quite get why Jolly is an idiot. He definately did dumbass things, but he's an addict. How many times in this country have we accepted a cleaned up rock star or movie star. Americans applaud someone who makes it out of the gutter and back to the life they once had.

If Jolly is clean and can stay clean, there is no reason not to think that he can't make it all the way back on the roster. He is a very athlectic big man, a perfect DE in a 3-4 defense, hell yeah he should be given the opportunity.
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12 years ago
Since GB owns his rights they will want to take a look at him.
First of all I can't see Goodell letting him back in the fold so soon. He will have to kiss his ring and jump through a lot of hoops in order to prove to Rodger that is is worthy. If he can do all of that I still have to wonder what kind of "football" shape he is in.

being on the final roster this year is a long long shot
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The_Green_Ninja
12 years ago
Maybe it seems weird, but I remember 2010 and how much of an impact he had on that team. Our Run D was AMAZING that year, we just had terrible backfield coverage (2010 wild card game anyone?). We get him back, I honestly believe it will make the boost to the Super Bowl that much easier. With a double threat with linebackers, Johnny Jolly, Raji, and all those defensive draft picks, and Charles Woodson, this team has the chance to have the greatest year in Packers history. And, in my opinion, a good amount of it depends on if Jolly comes back hungry and is given a chance. The more competition, the more this team will win.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

I don't quite get why Jolly is an idiot. He definately did dumbass things, but he's an addict. How many times in this country have we accepted a cleaned up rock star or movie star. Americans applaud someone who makes it out of the gutter and back to the life they once had.

If Jolly is clean and can stay clean, there is no reason not to think that he can't make it all the way back on the roster. He is a very athlectic big man, a perfect DE in a 3-4 defense, hell yeah he should be given the opportunity.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



You can have a 200 IQ and still be an idiot.

Idiot has two meanings:
1) stupid person by means of lack of intelligence,
2) someone who does stupid things.

I am often an idiot because of #2.

(Of course, the real definition is a retarded person with an IQ under 30, but nobody uses that definition any more).

We're actually in agreement here. I'd give the guy a chance if:
1) he still has the tools,
2) he remains clean

I remember him being good.
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DakotaT
12 years ago



We're actually in agreement here. I'd give the guy a chance if:
1) he still has the tools,
2) he remains clean

I remember him being good.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



I don't know why you need to use the word actually - we agree on a lot of things.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Idiot has two meanings:
1) stupid person by means of lack of intelligence,
2) someone who does stupid things.

I am often an idiot because of #2.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



No disrespect intended, but when I read that last line there, I thought to myself "is he saying his wife is stupid?" lol


I think Johhny Jolly's were immature, not stupid, not idiotic, just immature. It seems he couldn't handle the success he had earned. We are all immature to some degree in our late teens early 20's. Often those mistakes build/define the character we become in our late 20's early 30's and so on. We can let mistakes define us, or we can be defined by how we recovered from mistakes. No one worth their weight in salt counts how many times you get knocked down ... what matters most is how many times you get back up.



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zombieslayer
12 years ago

No disrespect intended, but when I read that last line there, I thought to myself "is he saying his wife is stupid?" lol


I think Johhny Jolly's were immature, not stupid, not idiotic, just immature. It seems he couldn't handle the success he had earned. We are all immature to some degree in our late teens early 20's. Often those mistakes build/define the character we become in our late 20's early 30's and so on. We can let mistakes define us, or we can be defined by how we recovered from mistakes. No one worth their weight in salt counts how many times you get knocked down ... what matters most is how many times you get back up.


Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Alright. Maybe idiot was too strong a word then. Immature, sure. Heck, I didn't grow up until I hit my early 30s. It actually surprises me that more football players don't wreck their lives, considering 30 is old.
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porky88
12 years ago
I don’t see why not. Jolly deserves a second chance. He’s hardly the first guy in the NFL to have off-field issues. In my opinion, his addiction shouldn’t be a deal breaker, though I suppose that’s a judgment individuals must make for themselves. In this case, it’s up to Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy.
Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago
If we bring back Jolly, the worst thing that happens is that he doesn't work out and we cut him.

The best thing would be that he works out like he did in '10.


Lot of of upside and no down side.
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nerdmann
12 years ago

If we bring back Jolly, the worst thing that happens is that he doesn't work out and we cut him.

The best thing would be that he works out like he did in '10.


Lot of of upside and no down side.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



The downside is that we get some injuries at the position at which he is taking up a roster spot, then come playoff time he tests dirty. Meanwhile Ted's long since released a bunch of guys who might not have been quite as good, but who could have helped us win it all.

But that's a chance you take. The Queens took that chance when they made that blockbuster deal to trade for Jared Allen.

It's no different than a freak injury. It can happen any time. Some guys have more of a history than others, but you can lose a player for many reasons.
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