Zero2Cool
12 years ago
I read someones post that blamed Ted Thompson for Scott Wells leaving and blaming Ted Thompson for Chad Clifton being released. It's common knowledge that Scott Wells was going to leave as he wanted too much money. And as for Chad Clifton, if the guy can't pass his physical why should he be on the team? It's just silly to fault the Packers for releasing a guy who can't pass a physical. There's a reason every NFL team gives a player a physical. Perhaps some of us should accept that fact.


Here's what Mike McCarthy had to say about Chad Clifton and Nick Collins.

The obvious is how good a player that Chad has been throughout his career, and I look at Nick Collins, I think Nick and Chad will both without a doubt be in the Green Bay Packer Hall of Fame. But Nick Collins, if you look at the beginning of his resume, he had a heck of a chance to go to Canton, just the way he was starting in the first half of his career.

But that really was not the tough part at all, because it wasn’t a professional decision. It was clearly a personal decision, specifically with Nick Collins. Just based on the information as an organization, Ted Thompson and I sat down, and the final question that’s asked is, ‘If Nick was your son, would you let him play?’ And that’s why we made the decision we did.

The same with Chad. Chad Clifton is going to be missed around here. You’re talking about two great guys in the locker room, wonderful human beings, excellent teammates, two men that we classify as core players. They’re a big part of the way our locker room is. We take a lot of pride in the culture and the way we go about things, and Chad Clifton and Nick Collins exemplified that to the max.

Mike McCarthy wrote:


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nerdmann
12 years ago
This shit with Nick Collins is asinine.

Why did they let him go through with that unnecessary surgery, if they weren't going to let him play ANYWAY?

That's messed up and in fact, they could be opening themselves up to a huge lawsuit. Unprofessional, to say the least. Unless there's something more to the story.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

This shit with Nick Collins is asinine.

Why did they let him go through with that unnecessary surgery, if they weren't going to let him play ANYWAY?

That's messed up and in fact, they could be opening themselves up to a huge lawsuit. Unprofessional, to say the least. Unless there's something more to the story.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



There is absolutely NO CHANCE of ANY lawsuit. I really hate idiots who think they have to find any reason to sue someone. So god damn stupid. Earn your god damn money!

You really are clueless, holy damn. You're trying to make MORE to the story ... for what outcome? For what goal? For what reason? Look, it sucks he's not a Packer anymore, but that doesn't mean we have to act like complete tinfoil hat wearing douchebags about it. Nick Collins KNEW the risks, he knew he had to have the surgery to have any CHANCE to play. He knew the chances were slim when having the surgery.

The Packers didn't make Nick Collins have the surgery, Nick Collins CHOSE to have the surgery on his own! It's not that damn complicated to understand and if you for a god damn second read Nick Collins comments in his interviews since the injury you'd realize how ignorant you are about the whole situation.

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12 years ago

asinine.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Dude, come on. Don't use that word. I'm sorry. But don't. Everybody who uses that word sounds...well. Like that word.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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play2win
12 years ago
Wells left for his big payday. That was out of our control. Those are the tough decisions a GM has to make, especially after he has assembled a championship winning team. You simply can't keep all of them together. Cliffy was a true warrior for such a long time. His play was slipping these past couple of seasons, moreso last year, and he couldn't get off the trainers table. Tough to have to make the call, but as a prudent GM, you make that call. Collins, that is a risk call, and again, I think it was the prudent call.

Now, look at all of those contracts. How much has Ted saved by making those tough calls? That is some big coin to be used to offset resigning Rodgers, Matthews, Raji and Jennings, among others. Losing Collins was sad, but this cap savings to GB will help our team. I hope like hell they keep him as a coach.
zombieslayer
12 years ago

Wells left for his big payday. That was out of our control. Those are the tough decisions a GM has to make, especially after he has assembled a championship winning team. You simply can't keep all of them together. Cliffy was a true warrior for such a long time. His play was slipping these past couple of seasons, moreso last year, and he couldn't get off the trainers table. Tough to have to make the call, but as a prudent GM, you make that call. Collins, that is a risk call, and again, I think it was the prudent call.

Now, look at all of those contracts. How much has Ted saved by making those tough calls? That is some big coin to be used to offset resigning Rodgers, Matthews, Raji and Jennings, among others. Losing Collins was sad, but this cap savings to GB will help our team. I hope like hell they keep him as a coach.

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Couldn't agree with you more on the first two. I liked Wells a lot, but money is limited and it's one of those things that sucks about being a GM.

Cliffy was done. Love the guy. Packer Hall of Famer and hopefully has a job with the Packers somewhere down the line. But he was already done last year. I saw him miss blocks that he would have normally leveled the guy.

As for Collins, no opinion. Could have been arguably a potential Hall of Famer at the rate he was going, but I'm not a doctor.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

As for Collins, no opinion. Could have been arguably a potential Hall of Famer at the rate he was going, but I'm not a doctor.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Nick Collins not being able to play (err, per the Packers opinion anyhow) really bothers me. By no means am I saying Nick Collins should jeopardize his future well being by jumping on the field at anything less than 100%. I'm speaking as a fan, it bothers me how unlucky it is. The hit was not a major hit. He never lost control over his extremities, just was numb. He was up and moving around with little to no problems days later, albeit with a neck brace.

I think the best way to describe my frustration is ... think of a car that looks great on the outside, interior is awesome to the eye, but under the hood it has a blown head gasket rendering the vehicle useless. I've had this happen to me before and it's just as frustrating... cuz I think... wtf it looks great, body is in great shape, ... it makes it hard to separate ties ... for me.


But yes...
Scott Wells - priced himself out of Green Bay
Chad Clifton - hindsight says he should have retired after 2010 ala Michael Strahan ... out on top
Nick Collins - four kids need him upright than millions of Packers fans.
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12 years ago
Uncle Teddy made the right calls all 3 times.
Wells wanted too much money.
Cliffy wanted to play too long.
Collins needed too much by his family.
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PackerTraxx
12 years ago
Whoever blamed Ted Thompson is correct. He's the GM, he makes those types of decisions. 🤨 🤣 And they're most likely the correct ones...even though we hate to see those players go. 😞
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12 years ago

Dude, come on. Don't use that word. I'm sorry. But don't. Everybody who uses that word sounds...well. Like that word.

Originally Posted by: TwinkieGorilla 



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