1st Round (28th Overall) OLB Nick Perry· Page 3

nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

I have said since Day 1 that Perry looks "lost in space". BUT he is so athletic and wasn't asked to do that a ton while at USC, so he should transition OK. It will be up to Capers and Greene to make sure he does that. Let's not mistake something though, they won't put him in positions to fail. He can get to the QB as well as ANY player in this draft and he fills a HUGE NEED for the Packers.

This pick was a B+

Originally Posted by: Arrigo

Yeah, I don't think he's gonna show up ready to cover RBs and TEs, but I think it's a skill he should be able to develop.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

evad04
Member

12 years ago

#22

I worry about his transition. He's such a good player with his hand in the dirt. He really accelerates off the ball. If he can maintain that acceleration standing up, then that is very good news for the Packers. I’m admittedly not excited about the pick, but you have to trust the coaches. There’s obviously talent here. You don’t run a sub 4.6 forty at 270 and not have big-time ability.

Originally Posted by: porky88

I don't mean to take all the subtlety and complexity out of the game, but acceleration off the ball from a 3-point stance vs. standing up basically comes down to technique. And Perry will be asked to rush the passer. With all the nickel defense Green Bay runs, I'm excited about what Perry can do.

William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."

Stevetarded
Registered

12 years ago

#23

He will not be able to cover anyone. My prediction.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf

He will rarely have to try and cover anyone. My prediction.

If you think about it how often do our OLB have to be in any significant coverages? Most of the time they are rushing or defending the run. Half the time they are in coverage it's something simple like covering the flat. If he brings the pass rush they think he will then who cares if he sucks for the 10ish% of his total snaps that he has to run down the seam to try and cover a TE.

blank

gbguy20
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#24

After reading this thread I have concluded our linebackers do not do anything in coverage.

BAD EMAIL because the address couldn ot be found, or is unable to receive mail.

zombieslayer
Registered

12 years ago

#25

I don't even care if the guy couldn't cover my Grandma. If he can get to the opposing QB, that's ALL THAT MATTERS.

OK, it's not all that matters. If he can take some double teams off of CM3 so CM3 can get sacks, that matters too.

If our sack count is anywhere near what it was in 2010, we get our 2nd SB with 🇦🇷. That puts us tied with the Cows and the Niners and only the Steelers to go.

It's all about sacks, folks.

My man Donald Driver

(thanks to Pack93z for the pic)
2010 will be seen as the beginning of the new Packers dynasty. 🇹🇹 🇲🇲 🇦🇷

evad04
Member

12 years ago

#26

If Green Bay can get into positive down and distances, their 3rd down defense already looks much more potent. On the inside you have Hargrove and Raji; on the outside, Matthews, Perry.

Who knows who it will actually be, but my paper-2-4-5 that we'll be running already has considerably better pass rushing ability. Now, whether they can get teams to 3rd and long is another matter.

William Henderson didn't have to run people over. His preferred method was levitation.
"I'm a reasonable man, get off my case."

all_about_da_packers
Senior Member

12 years ago

#27

After reading this thread I have concluded our linebackers do not do anything in coverage.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

How many times have you seen our OLB being matched 1-on-1 with TEs or WRs? Not many.

Yes, they will be asked to drop into passing lanes in zone coverage at times. That is, however, different from matching up 1-on-1 against the Jeremy Grahams / Vernon Davis types.

Perry would seem to be capable in containing the edge, as well as having enough athletic ability to bend around the corner with some explosiveness versus tackles in pass-rushing so as to get a good rush. Those things would fill a void on our D. If we can do those two things consistently... he'll be an unquestioned improvement over what we had at OLB last year to team with Clay.

Now if Ted can get us a couple of D-line prospects to boost our front-4... I think that would increase our ILB level of play (I'm looking at you, Hawk) and improve our D as a whole back to our Superbowl season caliber.

The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.

nerdmann
Premier Member

12 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded

I think he'll be fine running down the seams with TEs. He's probably faster than most TEs. I also think he'll be ok covering the flat.

I think his main weakness as I understand it is lateral change of direction. So if he's man on man with a TE or RB, he might have to run with a guy juking him out or something. That might be a problem as far as shadowing that guy all over the field. But in more of a zone I think he'd be ok and just as far as running down the field with a TE I think he'll be ok.

It's something he can work on. Dude's got major upside, that's for sure.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

porky88
Veteran Member

12 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: evad04

It's all about comfort. Some players actually like playing with their hand in the dirt. Look it Aaron Kampman. I don't think he plays on the line in nickel. Maybe I'm interpreting your post wrong, but he’s a full-time OLB in a 3-4.

I do like that he’s not somebody you need to scheme pressure for. This defense lacks somebody that can line up and just beat a guy one-on-one. Clay Matthews even lacks a great pass rush repertoire. Come training camp, I imagine Perry is going to be fun to watch in one-on-one drills.

http://www.row12.com/

stevegb
Member

12 years ago

#30

Is there any chance he comes in as a 3-4 D-End to replace Cullen Jenkins? What made us successful in 2010 was the fact we had a great pass rushing 3-4 DE (he was a good all-round player). All he needs to do is add some weight.

blank

Important Information:

The PACKERSHOME uses cookies. By continuing to browse this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. More Details Close

Fan Shout

Zero2Cool (42m) : Jameson Williams is done at 24 years old? What? He's a WR, not QB. I'm missing something here haha

wpr (1h) : Tomorrow is almost here.

packerfanoutwest (1h) : would you want him if Pack needed a back up qb?

packerfanoutwest (1h) : JW is done......stick a fork in him

Zero2Cool (3h) : You should. He goes to AFC that helps Packers.

packerfanoutwest (13h) : don't care

Zero2Cool (18h) : Lions shopping Jameson Williams?

packerfanoutwest (22-Apr) : Packers General Manager Brian Gutekunst says Green Bay’s roster can win, even without adding anyone in the draft.

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : It's a poor design. New site has SignalR like our gameday chat

wpr (22-Apr) : Ah today's Shout was very quick to post.

wpr (22-Apr) : now 3

Zero2Cool (22-Apr) : Who? What?

beast (22-Apr) : What is he supposed to say? He doesn't want players currently on the team?

Martha Careful (21-Apr) : meh

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : Sounds like Walker and Wyatt will be with Packers for beyond 2026

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : It's so awesome.

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : new site fan shout post fast

wpr (21-Apr) : Slow posting in Fan shout.

wpr (21-Apr) : Only 4

Zero2Cool (21-Apr) : If only we had a topic to read about and discuss it. That's something new website must have!!!

dfosterf (21-Apr) : Justice Musqueda over at Acme Packing put up an excellent synopsis of the Packers 1st round options this am

wpr (19-Apr) : 5 days

beast (18-Apr) : 6 days

wpr (17-Apr) : 7 days

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.

dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move

dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish

Please sign in to use Fan Shout

2024 Packers Schedule

Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM

Eagles

29 - 34

Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM

COLTS

16 - 10

Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM

Titans

30 - 14

Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM

VIKINGS

29 - 31

Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM

Rams

24 - 19

Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM

CARDINALS

34 - 13

Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM

TEXANS

24 - 22

Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM

Jaguars

30 - 27

Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM

LIONS

14 - 24

Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM

Bears

20 - 19

Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM

49ERS

38 - 10

Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM

DOLPHINS

30 - 17

Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM

Lions

31 - 34

Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM

Seahawks

30 - 13

Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM

SAINTS

34 - 0

Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM

Vikings

25 - 27

Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM

BEARS

22 - 24