nerdmann
13 years ago

I have said since Day 1 that Perry looks "lost in space". BUT he is so athletic and wasn't asked to do that a ton while at USC, so he should transition OK. It will be up to Capers and Greene to make sure he does that. Let's not mistake something though, they won't put him in positions to fail. He can get to the QB as well as ANY player in this draft and he fills a HUGE NEED for the Packers.

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Originally Posted by: Arrigo 



Yeah, I don't think he's gonna show up ready to cover RBs and TEs, but I think it's a skill he should be able to develop.
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evad04
13 years ago

I worry about his transition. He's such a good player with his hand in the dirt. He really accelerates off the ball. If he can maintain that acceleration standing up, then that is very good news for the Packers. I’m admittedly not excited about the pick, but you have to trust the coaches. There’s obviously talent here. You don’t run a sub 4.6 forty at 270 and not have big-time ability.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



I don't mean to take all the subtlety and complexity out of the game, but acceleration off the ball from a 3-point stance vs. standing up basically comes down to technique. And Perry will be asked to rush the passer. With all the nickel defense Green Bay runs, I'm excited about what Perry can do.
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Stevetarded
13 years ago

He will not be able to cover anyone. My prediction.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



He will rarely have to try and cover anyone. My prediction.

If you think about it how often do our OLB have to be in any significant coverages? Most of the time they are rushing or defending the run. Half the time they are in coverage it's something simple like covering the flat. If he brings the pass rush they think he will then who cares if he sucks for the 10ish% of his total snaps that he has to run down the seam to try and cover a TE.
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gbguy20
13 years ago
After reading this thread I have concluded our linebackers do not do anything in coverage.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
I don't even care if the guy couldn't cover my Grandma. If he can get to the opposing QB, that's ALL THAT MATTERS.

OK, it's not all that matters. If he can take some double teams off of CM3 so CM3 can get sacks, that matters too.

If our sack count is anywhere near what it was in 2010, we get our 2nd SB with 🇦🇷. That puts us tied with the Cows and the Niners and only the Steelers to go.

It's all about sacks, folks.
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evad04
13 years ago
If Green Bay can get into positive down and distances, their 3rd down defense already looks much more potent. On the inside you have Hargrove and Raji; on the outside, Matthews, Perry.

Who knows who it will actually be, but my paper-2-4-5 that we'll be running already has considerably better pass rushing ability. Now, whether they can get teams to 3rd and long is another matter.
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all_about_da_packers
13 years ago

After reading this thread I have concluded our linebackers do not do anything in coverage.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 



How many times have you seen our OLB being matched 1-on-1 with TEs or WRs? Not many.

Yes, they will be asked to drop into passing lanes in zone coverage at times. That is, however, different from matching up 1-on-1 against the Jeremy Grahams / Vernon Davis types.

Perry would seem to be capable in containing the edge, as well as having enough athletic ability to bend around the corner with some explosiveness versus tackles in pass-rushing so as to get a good rush. Those things would fill a void on our D. If we can do those two things consistently... he'll be an unquestioned improvement over what we had at OLB last year to team with Clay.

Now if Ted can get us a couple of D-line prospects to boost our front-4... I think that would increase our ILB level of play (I'm looking at you, Hawk) and improve our D as a whole back to our Superbowl season caliber.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

He will rarely have to try and cover anyone. My prediction.

If you think about it how often do our OLB have to be in any significant coverages? Most of the time they are rushing or defending the run. Half the time they are in coverage it's something simple like covering the flat. If he brings the pass rush they think he will then who cares if he sucks for the 10ish% of his total snaps that he has to run down the seam to try and cover a TE.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 



I think he'll be fine running down the seams with TEs. He's probably faster than most TEs. I also think he'll be ok covering the flat.

I think his main weakness as I understand it is lateral change of direction. So if he's man on man with a TE or RB, he might have to run with a guy juking him out or something. That might be a problem as far as shadowing that guy all over the field. But in more of a zone I think he'd be ok and just as far as running down the field with a TE I think he'll be ok.

It's something he can work on. Dude's got major upside, that's for sure.
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porky88
13 years ago

I don't mean to take all the subtlety and complexity out of the game, but acceleration off the ball from a 3-point stance vs. standing up basically comes down to technique. And Perry will be asked to rush the passer. With all the nickel defense Green Bay runs, I'm excited about what Perry can do.

Originally Posted by: evad04 


It's all about comfort. Some players actually like playing with their hand in the dirt. Look it Aaron Kampman. I don't think he plays on the line in nickel. Maybe I'm interpreting your post wrong, but he’s a full-time OLB in a 3-4.

I do like that he’s not somebody you need to scheme pressure for. This defense lacks somebody that can line up and just beat a guy one-on-one. Clay Matthews even lacks a great pass rush repertoire. Come training camp, I imagine Perry is going to be fun to watch in one-on-one drills.
stevegb
13 years ago
Is there any chance he comes in as a 3-4 D-End to replace Cullen Jenkins? What made us successful in 2010 was the fact we had a great pass rushing 3-4 DE (he was a good all-round player). All he needs to do is add some weight.
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