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The Green Bay Packers have released S Nick Collins. The transaction was announced Wednesday by Executive Vice President, General Manager and Director of Football Operations Ted Thompson.

Collins, who was selected by the Packers with the first of two second-round selections (No. 51 overall) in the 2005 NFL Draft, went on to appear in 95 games (all starts) at free safety during his seven-year career in Green Bay. During that time, he amassed 498 tackles (388 solo), 21 interceptions, including four returned for touchdowns, 83 passes defensed, five forced fumbles and two fumble recoveries.

From 2008-10, Collins ranked second among all NFL players with 439 interception return yards and was tied for second among safeties with 17 INTs over that span. In 2008, he set a franchise record with 295 INT return yards and became the first NFL safety since 1986 to return three INTs for TDs in a season. In 2010, Collins became the first Packers safety since LeRoy Butler to earn a bid to three consecutive Pro Bowls, and capped his season with a 37-yard INT return for a touchdown in Super Bowl XLV. He missed just three games in his first six seasons in the league, but was sidelined for the final 14 contests of 2011 after suffering a season-ending neck injury at Carolina in Week 2.

“From the beginning of this process, we have taken our time and sought numerous medical opinions while maintaining consistent dialogue with Nick,” Thompson said. “In the end, we were not comfortable clearing him to play again. As with all of our players, Nick is a member of our family and we thought of him that way as we came to this conclusion.

“Nick is a part of our core, and this is a very difficult day for all Packers. Making this kind of decision is never easy, especially when it involves someone like Nick Collins. He has meant so much to the community, his teammates and the organization. He is a good man and will always be part of the Packers family.”

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13 years ago
This one is pretty upsetting
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13 years ago
the timing is a bit odd...

did they get enough medical info to NOT clear him?

or, did they cut him the day before the draft because they have not had a difinitive "Its to dangerous/ok to play" from a doc?


I'd like to hear if Nick plans on retiring or getting more opinions.

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It's sad because Nick was such a joy to watch. Were it not for the injury, he could have quite possibly carved out a Hall of Fame career. What a ballhawk. What incredible speed and range for a safety.

But at the end of the day, you just want him to be healthy. I'm sure most of us are on the same page: we'll miss Nick Collins the player, but will rest assured that his long term health isn't in jeopardy.
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IMO, as I have stated a number of times, this is the right decision for the Packers and hopefully Nick agrees with that opinion. As much as the game means to some, the lifetime after the game is done is just as valuable as the game itself. The neck, back and spinal cord are nothing to mess with.. error on the side of caution.

I wish nothing but the best of luck to Nick.. whether it is with the Packers in person or spirit moving forward.


On the timing... both Clifton and Collins future being decided before the draft has me thinking that the Packers are gearing up for taking on additional salary.. IE draft day trades for a veteran or two that become available on draft day. Or at the very least having the cap space to afford them the flexibility of doing such.

With the Rookie cap in place, it afford teams to move around and be creative with draft picks knowing the salary risks have been decreased. Being the first year all the CBA rules are known going into the draft, I expect a few more players to be included in draft day trades this year.. and maybe the Packers are preparing themselves to have the flexibility to cease any deals in the heat of the moment.

Just a thought.
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13 years ago
Nick Collins in baby blue and silver next year, book it lol
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13 years ago
Another step backward. Not good. Wells, Clifton(expected), now Collins.

That's a lot of experience and leadership to replace.

The best scenario here is that Nick decides to rretire, but I think I already read somewhere on this forum that if cleared by doctors he wants to continue playing.

Will be interesting to see where Nick ends up.

Hopefully not somewhere that he can come back and Bite Ted Thompson in the ass.


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IMO, as I have stated a number of times, this is the right decision for the Packers and hopefully Nick agrees with that opinion. As much as the game means to some, the lifetime after the game is done is just as valuable as the game itself. The neck, back and spinal cord are nothing to mess with.. error on the side of caution.

I wish nothing but the best of luck to Nick.. whether it is with the Packers in person or spirit moving forward.


On the timing... both Clifton and Collins future being decided before the draft has me thinking that the Packers are gearing up for taking on additional salary.. IE draft day trades for a veteran or two that become available on draft day. Or at the very least having the cap space to afford them the flexibility of doing such.

With the Rookie cap in place, it afford teams to move around and be creative with draft picks knowing the salary risks have been decreased. Being the first year all the CBA rules are known going into the draft, I expect a few more players to be included in draft day trades this year.. and maybe the Packers are preparing themselves to have the flexibility to cease any deals in the heat of the moment.

Just a thought.

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13 years ago

It's sad because Nick was such a joy to watch. Were it not for the injury, he could have quite possibly carved out a Hall of Fame career. What a ballhawk. What incredible speed and range for a safety.

But at the end of the day, you just want him to be healthy. I'm sure most of us are on the same page: we'll miss Nick Collins the player, but will rest assured that his long term health isn't in jeopardy.

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I've been saying he's on his way to a Hall of Fame career. Has the right stats - 3 straight Pro Bowls, 2 straight All Pros, an INT TD in a SB and a Ring. Fan favorite.

Unfortunately, he got Sterling Sharped. Right in his prime. What a shame.

Wishing Nick the best in his post-football career.
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13 years ago
:(

Saw the news earlier. Damn. Even though we all felt it coming...this is a tough one to take. Possibly the best free safety this team has ever seen.

I agree with Twinkiegorilla.

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Hey Zombie, did you see anywhere that it says Collins retired? I see him going to a NFC Norris team, to show Ted Thompson that he was healthy enough to play.

Just heard on ESPN that Collins agent says Collins isnt sure if he is going to keep playing or retire? HMMMMMM Collins doctor cleared him but Packers doctors didn't?
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Hey Zombie, did you see anywhere that it says Collins retired? I see him going to a NFC Norris team, to show Ted Thompson that he was healthy enough to play.

Just heard on ESPN that Collins agent says Collins isnt sure if he is going to keep playing or retire? HMMMMMM Collins doctor cleared him but Packers doctors didn't?

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NFC Norris? WTF is that?

It's going to be interesting to hear the facts on the results instead of speculation.
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Collins loss was about his long term health as a person, NOT a player. Thompson and McCarthy care about (or dare I say love) Collins. This was a decision that they took their time in making and was not made with a dollar sign (cap savings) in mind.

Collins still hasn't been cleared to play and is seeking various opinions from doctors to see if he will be able to ever play again.

I was told that he has an open invitation to be a part of the staff/organization when he is ready.

I loved watching Collins play. He grew so much as a player and it was refreshing to see him live up to his his talent.

More on the Collins release and what could be happening next in the new OTS (out later tonight).

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Hey Zombie, did you see anywhere that it says Collins retired? I see him going to a NFC Norris team, to show Ted Thompson that he was healthy enough to play.

Just heard on ESPN that Collins agent says Collins isnt sure if he is going to keep playing or retire? HMMMMMM Collins doctor cleared him but Packers doctors didn't?

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Nope. Talking out of my ass.

(Actually, I'm hoping he retires for his sake.)
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13 years ago
This is just sad. I think the Packers did the right thing. I really hope Nick doesn't risk his health to play again, it's not worth it. Thank you Nick Collins for being one heck of a player for the Packers.
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I was waiting for this article to be written. I remember LeRoy Butler expressing his ... thoughts ... on someone wearing his number so soon. Thank you Tom! Click his name to support his hard work!

Butler says Collins made him proud to share jersey No. 36

When he first was told that a second-round pick from Bethune-Cookman was going to be wearing his jersey just three years after he had retired, Packers safety LeRoy Butler was puzzled.

Voted the strong safety of the decade for the '90s, Butler thought it might be a little bit early to be giving his jersey away. Then he talked with first-year GM Ted Thompson.

"He told me, 'We found the right guy to wear that number; that's Nick Collins,'" Butler said in a phone interview from New York, where he'll announce the Packers' second-round pick on Friday. "And he was right. They found a guy who was able to fill my shoes and he was great on and off the field.

"It's one of my saddest days as a Packers fan that he won't be wearing No. 36 anymore. It would be a good opportunity to retire it or put it away for good."

Collins was released Wednesday after the Packers' brass decided they didn't feel comfortable with him playing following single-level cervical fusion surgery. Collins hasn't decided whether he wants to play yet, but he has been encouraged by how he has felt in his recovery and has expressed a desire to return if the doctors will clear him.

Butler said he understood Collins' desire to play again and said it would be up to him "to look the doctor in the eye and have him tell him that it's safe for him to play." Butler said he faced the same situation after the 2001 season when team physician Patrick McKenzie told him his shoulder was in no condition to play again.

Ultimately, Butler took McKenzie's advice and retired. But he was much older at the time and in the twilight of his career. Collins will turn 29 in August.

As for his feelings about Collins, Butler said he couldn't be prouder to have shared the number with him.

"He wore that number with the most honor," Butler said. "It made me happy that they found someone who could wear that jersey with honor for another eight years, I think Nick will be remembered as part of the long tradition of great safeties the Packers have had over the years.

"You're talking Darren Sharper, Eugene Robinson, Willie Wood, myself. There's always been someone keeping that alive."

As for Collins' future, Butler said he could see Detroit or Chicago giving Collins a chance if their doctors are willing to clear him. But he thinks it will all come down to Collins feeling that it's safe for him to return to the game.

"I'm glad he got to play on a Super Bowl team," Butler said. "He was able to get that ring."

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Collins loss was about his long term health as a person, NOT a player. Thompson and McCarthy care about (or dare I say love) Collins. This was a decision that they took their time in making and was not made with a dollar sign (cap savings) in mind.

Collins still hasn't been cleared to play and is seeking various opinions from doctors to see if he will be able to ever play again.

I was told that he has an open invitation to be a part of the staff/organization when he is ready.

I loved watching Collins play. He grew so much as a player and it was refreshing to see him live up to his his talent.

More on the Collins release and what could be happening next in the new OTS (out later tonight).

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It was my understanding that he was cleared by the doc who did the surgery. Now they're saying he hasn't been cleared at all. What's up with that?
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this has to be very hard on Nick. he is a wonderful guy and a super player. I am glad he was able to play for the green and gold. I wish him the very best in his future.
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It was my understanding that he was cleared by the doc who did the surgery. Now they're saying he hasn't been cleared at all. What's up with that?

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Nothing has been officially stated about whom cleared him and did not clear him, well, I suppose it's official the Packers did not clear him.

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It was my understanding that he was cleared by the doc who did the surgery. Now they're saying he hasn't been cleared at all. What's up with that?

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You are still missing the point. If 100 drs lined up and gave Collins their ok that was not going to be good enough for Ted and Mike. They are about the man a lot more than they care about the player. They simply did not want to see him crippled for the rest of his life if they had a say in the matter. And they do. Nick may play again for another team. They can not stop him. But they made sure it didn't happen while he was in green and gold.
Obviously THEY know how much risk is involved in playing in the NFL. It is their opinion that the neck injury unnecessarily added risk. There is a huge difference between someone injuring their arm/leg and having to deal with it for the rest of their life and Nick being paralyzed forever.

We all know you disagree with their decision that is your right. Many of us feel it was the right call.
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