Green Bay Packers’s GM Ted Thompson’s Draft Methodology· Page 4

Rockmolder
Honored Member

13 years ago

On if he learned anything from drafting disappointing and oft-injured Tennessee defensive tackle Justin Harrell 16th overall in 2007:
Ted Thompson: No. We did our research with that pick, too. The fact that it didn’t work out is my responsibility.

hmm... what do ya think about that lol

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I still actually like the pick. Of course he wouldn't make it again, but at the time, it wasn't that horrible a selection.

Not saying that it was the best option available, but it wasn't as bad as hindsight makes it look.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#32

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

I had no issues with the pick at the time. The team after the Packers said they were going to take him if the Packers hadn't. From the interviews I seen of him, he seemed like a really nice guy too ... just couldn't get his back right. I think after his back was better, he blew out an ACL or something. I think the pick was more bad luck than bad pick.

play2win
Senior Member

13 years ago

#33

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Quite honestly, while we all have to take into account this is a human endeavor, picks don't always work out, I was not thrilled with the Harrell pick when it was made, and really uninspired by Ted's lack of attention to finding an immediate replacement for Jenkins. Those are definitely on him, especially the latter. I felt, when Jenkins was talking about not returning last offseason, and all the posturing, that should Ted let him walk, there goes our shot at back-to-back. When he didn't attempt to replace him till much later in last year's draft, the disappointment I felt grew exponentially.

Pass rush to make your secondary better is fundamental football. How could he have let that go like he did?

What Ted should ALSO learn from Ron Wolf, is that when you have a chance at dynasty, do not rest and settle for "fart in the wind, one hit wonder"-type roster building. These days with our team as assembled are precious. Build in the right areas, and maybe win one or two more SBs.

"Building through the draft and developing your players" is one thing, but, once you are "built," I believe it would be beneficial to ride that, augment your team's overall strength by adding good players at positions that always, inevitably wind up being opened up due to FA losses, and put that F'in pedal to the metal. Employ a slight change in philosophy, because, hey, you're not building anymore. Ted CAN be more selective. He has earned that right, and his team needs (needed) that change to occur. That has not happened. Yet.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#34

I'm not trying to seem like a no-it-all, because that's no where NEAR the case, obviously. But I didn't like the Harrell pick from the beginning, especially after researching the guy and his injury history. Just because another team was also interested in him (Denver?) doesn't change my opinion at all. I'm overly paranoid when it comes to injuries and such, and it just didn't look good for Harrell. I do believe at that time, I wanted Olsen rather than Harrell. Nothing about the pick seemed good to me. Too much of a reach with too much risk. It happens, though. I'd still prefer Ted Thompson over most GMs in the league.

play2win
Senior Member

13 years ago

#35

Hey doddpower, totally agree on the injury thing with him, and because of that, I thought it was a really bad move. Back then, just off the top of my head, we really needed a solid DT replacement for the loss of Corey Williams, who the season prior, was really coming on. Again, Ted never replaced him till years later. I really don't want us to have to suffer through that again, like we did last year.

I like Ted, but man, when you're on your board, and you climb onto that killer wave, and you're having the time of your life, if your foot slips (FA losses), you don't just get off the wave man! You try to adjust, and keep ridin'!!!

PackerTraxx
Senior Member

13 years ago

#36

Instead of Harrell I wanted Ted Thompson to take the trade with Clevland. Their 2nd that year and their 1st the following year, mainly because I thought it gave us a good shot at a blue chip player with the first and a similar player, to our first, with the #2. At worst we get an extra high pick. Ted Thompson must have really liked Harrell. As it turned Clevland had one of their best season, if not the best, the following year and the pick would have so so. Any way I'm fine with what Ted Thompson did, it just didn't work out. Had Harrell been able to stay healthy I believe he would have been a very good player.

Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?

wpr
Preferred Member

13 years ago

#37

As we sit a few days away from D Day I have been wondering more and more about what Uncle Teddy is thinking.

Does he feel he has done enough with the acquisition of Hargrove and Muir? If so I see him taking an OLB with his first pick. If not I see him going for a DE. Of course he has to wait to see how falls to him. Personally I would prefer he package a few of the picks and move up a few notches to grab a stud impact player.

DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#38

Originally Posted by: wpr

I think if Konz or Zeitler is there, he will really be tempted. McClellin might just be our guy though. We'll get 2 more d-lineman, but they'll be later.

DoddPower
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#39

I've seen a few mock drafts that have us getting Barron. I can't imagine that happening myself, but that would be a NICE pick at 28. I think my ideal scenario would be to take a DT/DE (Worthy) with our first, and then move up in the early second and take McClellin if he makes it out of the first. Instantly, our defense should be significantly improved.

DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#40

Originally Posted by: doddpower

Nothing is a sure thing my friend. I think I'd rather take the OLB first and make sure you grab the one you want. I like Worthy, but I think if he had the work ethic to go with the talent, he'd be a top 10 pick.

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