buckeyepackfan
12 years ago

I know it's an Ohio State thing for you, but Hawk is a liability on the field in passing situations. Plain and simple and what bothers me is that he is overpaid. Trust me Buckeye, I don't sit here on Sunday afternoons rooting against the guy - but he is what he is, an overpaid slow linebacker that can't stay with a safety. I would much rather watch him blitz than trail a TE or RB.

As for Jones, I don't quite understand all the love he gets, but once again, I don't root against him - I just don't think he does anything special. He should be a beast over the middle with his body size, but that's where Finley plays. James Jones is a luxury if anything, but Cobb is going to take his production away.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



This is not an Ohio State thing.

A.J. Hawk has done everything The Packers have asked of him.

When they needed a middle lb he moved to a position he had never played before.

When they switched to the 3-4 and The Packers tried to replace him in 2010, he bided his time and when lbr's started dropping like flies Hawk was the one who stepped up and took over the roll of Def qb, filling in for Barnett and being the ONLY lb to start the last 16(includes play-offs) games of the season.

What do you mean by overpaid?

Hawk didn't hold a gun to Ted's head, in fact Ted cut him and the resigned him as a way to keep him with a cap friendly contract.

I guess the point I am trying to make is If there was somebody out there that was available to Ted who was better than Hawk, don't you think he would have signed him and let Hawk go?

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nerdmann
12 years ago

SUPERBOWL RINGS Hawk 1....Greenway-0

ENOUGH SAID!!!!!! 😂

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



Hawk also has to compete with all the other awesome Packers LBs to get those tackles.
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Dexter_Sinister
12 years ago

I know it's an Ohio State thing for you, but Hawk is a liability on the field in passing situations. Plain and simple and what bothers me is that he is overpaid. Trust me Buckeye, I don't sit here on Sunday afternoons rooting against the guy - but he is what he is, an overpaid slow linebacker that can't stay with a safety. I would much rather watch him blitz than trail a TE or RB.

As for Jones, I don't quite understand all the love he gets, but once again, I don't root against him - I just don't think he does anything special. He should be a beast over the middle with his body size, but that's where Finley plays. James Jones is a luxury if anything, but Cobb is going to take his production away.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



According to the passing D metrics from last year, Bishop was the Packers worst liability on the field in passing situations by far. He was also targeted more often than Hawk. Probably because the opponents are smart enough to figure out who is the Packers worst pass defender. Hawk at worst was mediocre in coverage.

The Metrics were posted by someone on this site. I will search for them and see if I can post the link.

I could only find up to week 13. Posted by RashaanSalaami.

http://www.packershome.com/tabid/63/g/posts/t/14048/Week-13-Pass-D-Metrics---Season-Totals.aspx 
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Stevetarded
12 years ago

According to the passing D metrics from last year, Bishop was the Packers worst liability on the field in passing situations by far. He was also targeted more often than Hawk. Probably because the opponents are smart enough to figure out who is the Packers worst pass defender. Hawk at worst was mediocre in coverage.

The Metrics were posted by someone on this site. I will search for them and see if I can post the link.

I could only find up to week 13. Posted by RashaanSalaami.

http://www.packershome.com/tabid/63/g/posts/t/14048/Week-13-Pass-D-Metrics---Season-Totals.aspx 

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



From what I remember of last year though it seemed like Bishop got the much tougher coverage match ups. I know they sometimes would even line him up out wide to bump the WR/TE at the line. I also remember him having to play man coverage vs Kellen Winslow.
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dfosterf
12 years ago
JAMES Jones. Buckeye is correct, including the A.J. thing, imo

Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Am I the only one who thinks it more likely that Ted Thompson will trade out of the first round?

Originally Posted by: Wade 



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Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Er, what did I do this time?
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

Er, what did I do this time?

Originally Posted by: Wade 



lol - nothing major. I've been saying for sometime I fully expect the Packers to back out of round one unless there's a can't miss player who dropped to them. I even said as much in your mock draft thread deal. Yet, you ... omit that. it's like you have a life or something and don't remember what everyone here posts. [duh] crazy
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lol - nothing major. I've been saying for sometime I fully expect the Packers to back out of round one unless there's a can't miss player who dropped to them. I even said as much in your mock draft thread deal. Yet, you ... omit that. it's like you have a life or something and don't remember what everyone here posts. [duh] crazy

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Hehe...my bad memory isn't because I have a life. Alas, I don't. It's because I'm an old fart who killed too many of his brain cells when he wasn't an old fart.




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Hehe...my bad memory isn't because I have a life. Alas, I don't. It's because I'm an old fart who killed too many of his brain cells when he wasn't an old fart.



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