Packers poised to trade up in draft!!!· Page 6

play2win
Senior Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

Pretty interesting article on All-Pro teams 2007-11 and draft round taken, by position:

http://nfl.si.com/2012/03/30/what-do-all-pro-teams-tell-us-about-nfl-draft/?sct=nfl_wr_a1

Could this be the year Ted trades away a R1 from next year to move up? I know he has never done it, but it seems his team is a pass rush and a SS away from another SB trip. Why not? I would love for us to add two R1s and an R2 to our much maligned defense this draft.

zombieslayer
Registered

13 years ago

#52

Originally Posted by: play2win

Good find, Play. Goes to show that the 1st round is no fluke. WR is probably the most extreme there. Let's not forget that if Randy Moss wasn't a punk, he probably would have been a top 3 pick that year. Teams knew he had emotional issues and that's why he slipped so far. The only exception there was Wes Welker (because let's face it - before Welker, there wasn't too much of a history of 5'9" white boys excelling at the WR position).

I didn't do the math, but it appears around 60-65% of the All-Pro players were drafted in the 1st round.

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play2win
Senior Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#53

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

Zombie! All the more reason to trade up for another R1!!!

How many more Guy Lawrences, Ricky Elmores and Caleb Schlauderaffs do we need? We traded DOWN three times in 2011 draft, and got those, er, superstars... CJ Wilson was a 7th rounder in 2010. Wynn was a 6th rounder and Brad Jones was a 7th in 2009.

And we let a vet like Jenkins leave? Why? Go ahead and kiss your 2011 Lombardi Trophy away, friends!

We MUST upgrade.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#54

And we let a vet like Jenkins leave? Why? Go ahead and kiss your 2011 Lombardi Trophy away, friends!

We MUST upgrade.

Originally Posted by: play2win

Reports were Cullen Jenkins wanted to break the bank and the Packers wanted to pay fair market value for him, kind like they do for most players who want to break the bank. The market was set, the Packers actually offered Cullen Jenkins more money (not a whole lot) and Jenkins chose the Eagles. Jenkins was bothered that the Packers didn't offer him a contract until someone else did. I can't say I don't understand his being bothered by this.

I say this because the saying the Packers let Cullen Jenkins leave is not entirely accurate. Cullen Jenkins chose to leave. The Packers think about long term first. Jenkins had a recent bought of injury problems an was closing in on 30. That's not exactly a recipe for throw down millions of dollars.

I think the Packers were also encouraged with what they saw from Mike Neal and B.J. Raji and thought Raji would continue to improve and that Neal could at least eat up blockers for the LB'ers.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#55

If the Packers do trade up, I don't think it would be higher than the 20th over all because I don't think the Packers want to toss away too many picks to move up.

There is no way the Packers trade away a round one pick for a following year for a draft pick this year. Will not happen, lol.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#56

play2win
Senior Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#57

Timing is so vital. I wish Ted would realize this.

Had he made an effort to replace Jenkins last year, we may have contended for the SB. Had he kept Jenkins, and added another DL, we may have won the SB. How long will we have Jennings, Nelson, Jones, Finley, DD, Cobb & Rodgers together in the same O? Why not go for it now? So we trade a R1 next year for an R1 this year... that R1 DL or OLB still be on the team next year... we are not losing anything, but rather gaining a better opportunity to win it all this season, and maybe next. An R1 with a year's experience should be a better player in year 2.

I see no downside to trading away next year's R1 this draft.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#58

I see no downside to trading away next year's R1 this draft.

Originally Posted by: play2win

You're not Ted Thompson. (I bet you didn't realize that until ... just now!)

It's not wise to send away future 1st round picks unless you strongly feel the current draft class is superior to next year. Thing is, you don't know if you're going to go 2 - 14 or 14 - 2 and that plays a huge role in that selection.

You could be shipping off a top 5 pick or a bottom 5 pick. That's pretty damn huge gamble and I see no reason for doing so.

Wade
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#59

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Now you know that no TT/MM team is ever going to have a top 5 pick. Shame on you. Did you wake up on the Minnesota side of the bed again?

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play2win
Senior Member Topic Starter

13 years ago

#60

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Really??? I just came here to talk Packers football. Zero sounds right. Cool, not so much...

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Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying

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dfosterf (16-Apr) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (16-Apr) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (16-Apr) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (16-Apr) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent

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