zombieslayer
12 years ago

Finland has never been a socialist country since we gained independence.

As for preserving rights, the US has steadily been stripping them away from you since 2001, and most of the people in your country seem to be completely oblivious to this.

I'm not saying it's not happening everywhere but still, it's kind of naive to think the ones who hold the power give a crap about the freedom of their people.

Originally Posted by: Packers_Finland 



I really hate to say this, but Finland is right here. Since 9/11/2001, America has lost tons of freedoms. The 4th Amendment is pretty much gone.

As for economic freedoms, we still got those. But us taxpayers get to bail out the major corporations (banks for instance) when they fail. Guess who gets to pay for that? So even with economic freedoms, that's with an asterisk.
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4PackGirl
12 years ago

I really hate to say this, but Finland is right here. Since 9/11/2001, America has lost tons of freedoms. The 4th Amendment is pretty much gone.

As for economic freedoms, we still got those. But us taxpayers get to bail out the major corporations (banks for instance) when they fail. Guess who gets to pay for that? So even with economic freedoms, that's with an asterisk.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



'us' taxpayers are the reason the banks failed. we wanted bigger homes that we knew we couldn't afford & then we couldn't pay for them. WE ARE GREEDY beyond friggin belief, we push the envelope, rack up huge credit card bills, live paycheck to paycheck, have to have the best of everything without actually working for it, & then when the shit hits the fan, we blame everyone else. especially the gov't. blame bill clinton all you want for the housing nightmare but dammit people - know your limitations, stick to a damn budget, & take responsibility for yourselves!!

to any employers out there, back the fuck off my facebook page & get a life. that's private, includes any & all children i have, whether i'm married or not, etc...all of which are illegal to ask about in an interview.

zombieslayer
12 years ago

'us' taxpayers are the reason the banks failed. we wanted bigger homes that we knew we couldn't afford & then we couldn't pay for them. WE ARE GREEDY beyond friggin belief, we push the envelope, rack up huge credit card bills, live paycheck to paycheck, have to have the best of everything without actually working for it, & then when the shit hits the fan, we blame everyone else. especially the gov't. blame bill clinton all you want for the housing nightmare but dammit people - know your limitations, stick to a damn budget, & take responsibility for yourselves!!

to any employers out there, back the fuck off my facebook page & get a life. that's private, includes any & all children i have, whether i'm married or not, etc...all of which are illegal to ask about in an interview.

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 



It takes two to tango. The banks weren't following the rules either. They knew the numbers were being fudged and they approved the loans anyways.

So both are to blame.

But look at it this way. Let's say you were doing everything right. You never lied. You never fudged numbers. You paid your taxes on time. You made a budget and you stuck to it. Should you be bailing out the banks?

But alas, going off topic.

It's none of anybody's business what you do outside of work. A job asking that should be publicly humiliated.
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Pack93z
12 years ago

'us' taxpayers are the reason the banks failed. we wanted bigger homes that we knew we couldn't afford & then we couldn't pay for them. WE ARE GREEDY beyond friggin belief, we push the envelope, rack up huge credit card bills, live paycheck to paycheck, have to have the best of everything without actually working for it, & then when the shit hits the fan, we blame everyone else. especially the gov't. blame bill clinton all you want for the housing nightmare but dammit people - know your limitations, stick to a damn budget, & take responsibility for yourselves!!

to any employers out there, back the fuck off my facebook page & get a life. that's private, includes any & all children i have, whether i'm married or not, etc...all of which are illegal to ask about in an interview.

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 



While I agree with the sediment that we the people are greedy and irresponsible folks at times, one can pile additional blame back upon the government regulations by loosing the credit laws, allowing the banks to lend to people that were buying to much house or in some cases shouldn't have been allowed to purchase at all.

But then again.. why the hell are they even insuring and regulating that in the first place. Banks are a business, if they want the risk, they should be allowed to take the profit or loss upon their risk. But digging there, it opens up a whole bigger can of worms to provide more incentive not to save thus drying up the cash flows even more.

Big damn circle... in the short.. I think it can't be blamed solely upon the people themselves.

We are a nation of spenders.. at every level.

Back to this facebook deal.. I as an employer reserve the right to deny access to the account while at work.. that is the end of my rights as an employer to access the information.
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12 years ago

It takes two to tango. The banks weren't following the rules either. They knew the numbers were being fudged and they approved the loans anyways.

So both are to blame.

But look at it this way. Let's say you were doing everything right. You never lied. You never fudged numbers. You paid your taxes on time. You made a budget and you stuck to it. Should you be bailing out the banks?

But alas, going off topic.

It's none of anybody's business what you do outside of work. A job asking that should be publicly humiliated.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 




Absolutely.

Alas, sheep are rarely heard speaking up against the character of the wolf.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago
I wonder when employers will begin to ask for email passwords. Why not banking passwords while they are at it, so they can monitor your financial transactions to ensure your integrity and compliance with the law?
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4PackGirl
12 years ago

I wonder when employers will begin to ask for email passwords. Why not banking passwords while they are at it, so they can monitor your financial transactions to ensure your integrity and compliance with the law?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



get a job with any financial institution & they run your credit. they also have the ability to get balance information on your bank accounts. fun fun!

back to the derail subject...yes zombie i agree the banks enjoyed the 'fruits' but didn't have to pay for it in the end. but are we a bunch of complete idiots who seriously can't understand that what the bank SAYS we can afford - we really can't?? common sense - where ARE you??

we shout at the top of our lungs - the gov't did this - they need to be more fiscally responsible, why the hell do they think they can spend spend spend without getting in trouble & yet WE as a collective nation do the exact same thing.

Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago

get a job with any financial institution & they run your credit. they also have the ability to get balance information on your bank accounts.

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 


Actually, employers in many industries run a credit report during the hiring process. I didn't know they could pull your balance information, though. That strikes me as an invasion of privacy.

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4PackGirl
12 years ago
yep. i hated that! if they deemed you financially 'irresponsible' they could choose not to hire you OR hire you & watch your credit thru your employment & THEN deem you financially irresponsible & fire your ass. of course that was awhile back - i'm not sure if they still do that now or not.
Formo
12 years ago
On one hand, I don't have a problem with this. If an idiot actually gives their employer their password to let them 'rummage' through their facebook.. So be it. Hopefully they remember to change that sucker.

On the other hand, while it's smart for a company to scope out their future employees' facebook profiles to prevent riff raff.. Actually getting ACCESS to potentially make changes to said profile is completely effed up.
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