It's a bit over the top for employers to ask for this information. Why not just come over to my house and hang out for a while? Would you like the keys to let yourself in? Would you like to record me and my family interacting?

Of course the best way to go about this is just to dump Facebook which would probably be a good thing anyway.

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The best defense against anyone spying on you, be boring. Like me.

Only people with something to hide, hide it.

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So you're one of those people that doesnt give a shit about giving up our right to privacy, and all that other jazz just because ur not doing anything wrong?

come on man

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This is such a damaging argument to make in a free society. Please post pictures of your wife in the nude -- right here in this thread. After all, you have nothing to hide, right?[boxing]

The person who mentioned hanging out at the employee's house raises an interesting point. Why not allow employers to request keys to employees' houses? What better way to ensure they are quality individuals with their affairs in order? Actually, the army does something similar: they inspect soldiers' houses on a periodic basis. That was one of the reasons why I tended to live in the outlying districts of the city: my squad leaders were less likely to spring unannounced visits on me.

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A girl I was seeing had the worst place ever when it came to being organized. It wasn't disgusting, like food on the floor or nothing. Just crap, everywhere. When I am more neat and orderly than a woman, it is a major turn off for me. Her bedroom had .. not shitting you .. piles of clothes in the corners. She's a single mother, but still, I'm a single father and my place is very organized and neat. Probably sounds petty, but I stopped seeing her after that. Prematurely, I thought about the future and there is just no way I can live like that.


Edit, lol, sorry about that. The whole employer coming into potential employee's home reminded me of it. 🙂

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Argh!

Hell, yes, I have things to hide. And why shouldn't I be able to?

Sorry, Dexter, but I hate this attitude. People like privacy for lots of different reasons, most of which are no one's damn business. And they certainly aren't their employer's business.

The employer is entitled to know what people do in their private lives only if the employee is working for them 24/7.

If it's one a.m., and I'm being naughty/immoral/disgusting, that's my business and God's. Not my employer's.

The more I have to worry about "my job" during off hours, the worse the quality of my job is. When you work at an institution as politically correct as mine, you end up worrying about "things getting back to the boss" all the time. (When someone asked me to post my "rules" yesterday, I had to think about whether I was going to put my name on the post, because I know that if some of that content gets back to certain people above me in the food chain, it's going to be (another) black mark. In the end, I decided to go ahead and do it.

But frankly, it bothers the hell out of me that I have to think that way about nearly everything I say anywhere in this small town or on the Internet. And it bothers me not just because my "bosses" are these politically correct people who believe bonehead economics. It bothers me just as much because, it bothers me even more because there are so many of my fellow workers and neighbors who take this sanctimonious "only people with something to hide, hide it" attitude.

I expect that when the revolution comes, I'll be near the front of the line for IowaGitmo or to be shot as a counter-revolutionary. Revolutions demand even more conformity than sanctimonious, puritanical, quasi-liberal, corporate America does. But while I'm going to my cell damning the latest iteration of the Committee on Public Safety, I'm also going to be damning the moralistic bastards who went along with every intrusion into people's lives because of their fears and their believes that those who are doing nothing wrong have nothing to hide.

If someone wants my password to PackersHome, to Facebook, or to any of the other hundred or so places I enter with a password, if they're going to ask for a drug test, then they better damn have probable cause or a search warrant backed by a deputy packing a gun. Because otherwise I'm going to tell them to fuck themselves with a large blunt instrument.

I have no doubt that most of the people I work with, "having nothing to fear," would blithely go along with any and all of the above, that they would look at me as an even bigger loon that they already think of me. But so be it.

I'll admit it. I have things I hide from view. Some things that my closest friends and family probably don't know about me. Things that are going to stay between me and God unless *He* tells me to disclose them. If that bothers someone, they're free to assume the worse and disassociate themselves from me. I have no intention of disclosing those secrets. And I'm certainly not interested in doing so to save my job. If I have to disclose to save my job, my job is by definition not going to be worth it.

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If I ever went to Confession, I'd put the poor Priest to sleep. I'd be there forever.

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He wouldn't be able to go to sleep during my confessions between ages 16 and 25.

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MANY great points, Illy!
It goes back to the "no consequences for your actions" that "we" as a nation have been pushing for in just about every aspect of our lives.
I DO however blame alot on the government. They take a HUGE amount of people's earnings, and throw it away on various B.S.
Then when they run out, they just raise taxes even more.
Little by little, we are giving up our freedoms without much fight. That's what makes it so easy.....just take a little at a time, and no one really notices.

"Facebook?" If that is what's most important in someone's life, then i question their priorities.

But that's today's world. Look around you.....i see people driving and texting or talking on their phones. Walking while texting and not having ANY idea of what's going on around them....walking right into traffic.

I don't think ANY employer has a right to your passwords on the computer. However, they DO have a right to fire your butt if they catch you on facebook when you are supposed to be doing your job.

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Facebook speaks out against this
http://www.cnn.com/2012/03/23/tech/social-media/facebook-employers/index.html?hpt=hp_t3 

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