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13 years ago

The thing is, I'm not at all denying that there's not good music in there. It's just so slanted towards his generation. That's why I got pissed off at the writer.

Now, if we want to have a generation war, we could start a "your generation sucks!" thread in the Back Alley.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



while some just have smelly feet. [grin1]

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13 years ago
for all the complaining that people have made of the list not having any current albums, all the lists that I have brought in here were made a while ago.

the album list-

Last Updated: 3-28-07



What I had hoped people would do is notice that (on the various instrument lists and this one as well.) and then say there was a new album released last year by hmm I can't think of the group that Rocky likes so much. He use to have them as a part of his signature.

But instead of looking at the link and seeing where this guy who made the list is coming from it is easier to piss and moan and denigrate a whole generation. Apparently it is ok to lump a whole group of people together and say they are all worthless if they are born within a few years of one another. We would never tolerate that if we based that same comment of color or gender or other classifications. I find it equally offensive when it is based on age. You can't throw everyone into one category and condemn the whole group. That is bigotry as well.
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13 years ago

for all the complaining that people have made of the list not having any current albums, all the lists that I have brought in here were made a while ago.

the album list-

What I had hoped people would do is notice that (on the various instrument lists and this one as well.) and then say there was a new album released last year by hmm I can't think of the group that Rocky likes so much. He use to have them as a part of his signature.

But instead of looking at the link and seeing where this guy who made the list is coming from it is easier to piss and moan and denigrate a whole generation. Apparently it is ok to lump a whole group of people together and say they are all worthless if they are born within a few years of one another. We would never tolerate that if we based that same comment of color or gender or other classifications. I find it equally offensive when it is based on age. You can't throw everyone into one category and condemn the whole group. That is bigotry as well.

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Sure. I'm guilty of it too.

As for music, I'll readily give tons of praise to "baby boomer" bands like the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Deep Purple for being incredibly innovative.

But I reserve the right to bitch and moan about that list because it's like bands have stopped being good after about 1982. Look at his list. It's so slanted towards baby boomer bands as if innovation and creativity stopped when generation x came along. WTF?

Plus, you have a complete exclusion of Heavy Metal. That genre has had so much innovation it's amazing. Where's the credit?

And what's with Queen's "A Night at the Opera" at 101? WTF? There are some real piece of **** albums listed above that one. Why is that not in the top 10 at the very least?

And Radiohead's Kid A in there but not The Bends? Kid A was horrible. The Bends was fantastic.

Was this guy on crack when he wrote this list?
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wpr
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Sure. I'm guilty of it too.

As for music, I'll readily give tons of praise to "baby boomer" bands like the Beatles, Pink Floyd, Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, and Deep Purple for being incredibly innovative.

But I reserve the right to bitch and moan about that list because it's like bands have stopped being good after about 1982. Look at his list. It's so slanted towards baby boomer bands as if innovation and creativity stopped when generation x came along. WTF?

Plus, you have a complete exclusion of Heavy Metal. That genre has had so much innovation it's amazing. Where's the credit?

And what's with Queen's "A Night at the Opera" at 101? WTF? There are some real piece of **** albums listed above that one. Why is that not in the top 10 at the very least?

And Radiohead's Kid A in there but not The Bends? Kid A was horrible. The Bends was fantastic.

Was this guy on crack when he wrote this list?

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



the list is certainly not perfect. Even I know that. But it is his opinion. So I will give him his due for publishing it.

One more thing to consider, he said, that his lists were based on

Criteria: - These Albums were chosen for their Popularity, Influence, and Musical Impact.



Elvis, The Beatles, even the Everly Brothers going to naturally get weighted stronger than a group that has been around for only 5 years. Just by the shear numbers of time. More people will have listened to their songs. More people will have bought their albums. More groups will say, "They were the driving force behind my music."


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13 years ago

fuck you, vr!! i'm (almost) 43 & thusly am in your category...so again i say fuck you!! ;)

if you think WE'RE bad, try hanging around a 20-something these days.
jesus mary & joseph - talk about want everything handed to them on a damn silver platter?!?!?!?

dadgum whipper snappers!!!

Originally Posted by: 4PackGirl 



Hey, hey hold up! Fuck you! Fuck you! 😉


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VR don't you know that some people have such low self worth/esteem that the only way they can feel good about themselves is to blame their plight on others?

All that is wrong is someone else's fault.

I could give him a list of more than 100 boomers who have had an accomplished productive life in all fields (civil rights, politics, sports, business, arts) and it wouldn't be good enough. All that is wrong has to be "our" fault.

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Er, 100 people out of a generation of, what, 75 million? I'm betting I could find 100 boomer fuckups without even leaving the White House or a Capitol office building or a Fortune 200 company headquarters.

It's not all our fault. But we *are* responsible for some cosmic fuck-ups.


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Er, 100 people out of a generation of, what, 75 million? I'm betting I could find 100 boomer fuckups without even leaving the White House or a Capitol office building or a Fortune 200 company headquarters.

It's not all our fault. But we *are* responsible for some cosmic fuck-ups.

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so what are you saying? You want me to list all 75 million or you won't be satisfied? I don't have time to sort through and quantify the 100 name list. The point was there is a long list of people who have added to the culture and nation. Which is a far cry from the "the entire baby boomer generation is greedy and selfish" cry that has been given.
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13 years ago
Regardless of the generation in which we speak, it is clear the a 100 or even a couple hundred can't make a country successful. And that is where we as a society are missing the point.

We can't count on a "few" to drive the ship.. we collectively as a nation better start stepping up, pulling together and rebuilding a strong nation.

IMO, we all, from generation to generation have our flaws and faults. So freaking what.. it is what the hell it is. Pointing fingers like those in Washington isn't going to get the job of rebuilding this nation done.

One of the major flaws in our society today is we have no clear vision of where we need to go as a country. Hell we can't even agree where we are.. Conservatives vs Liberals.. Dems vs Republicans.. class vs class.. and yes.. Generation vs Generation.. it doesn't freaking stop.

One clear thing.. as we continue to become more and more divided the weaker and weaker we get as a nation.

Watching the news.. peaking in on the campaign trail.. even listening to the coffer clutchers on the corner of main street America.. we can't be more diverse in our opinions and further away from solving what ails us.

We don't need any help from the outside to become a fractured nation.. we are doing that all by ourselves. Rapidly I may add.

Hell.. I am as guilty as all get out.. for decades I put football and sports well ahead of truly being aware of the nation around me. And to be honest.. it was far easier to run through life with those blinders on.
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well said Pack.
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13 years ago

And Radiohead's Kid A in there but not The Bends? Kid A was horrible. The Bends was fantastic.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



One of the first scew-ups I noticed. Many have debated whether The Bends is in fact a more influential album than OK Computer.

My greatest concert experience was seeing Radiohead for their The Bends tour in a bar for $10. Maybe 400 of us in the crowd.

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