Pack93z
12 years ago
As far as the topic.. albums as a whole are overrated in the last two to three decades.. IMO, it isn't albums that shape the landscape today.. it is music videos and marketing prime tracks from an album.. lord knows that not many complete albums are made anymore.
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TheKanataThrilla
12 years ago
Definitely list by an old dude. My guess is he is balding on top and has his hair in a ponytail in the back. He's hip, He's cool, He's 65... yeah fuck off.

Even with the obvious generational prejudice where this list considers anything good in the last 20 years to be pretty much only of the rap variety, the guy listed "Brother in Arms" at 190. Absolutely pathetic.

No grunge at all except Nirvana at 12. Not to start a side topic by my god are Nirvana the most overrated band ever? The Duran Duran of the grunge era. No Alice in Chains albums is absolutely sad. One of the few bands where I can listen to their whole musicial discography front to back without skipping tracks.

alharrisdude31
12 years ago
The last two or three decades is incorrect. the last 15 years would be much more accurate. The early 90's hosted two of the greatest turns in music. The thrash/grunge metal scene, and the skater-punk rock scene. For punk, Guttermouth was becoming big, Social Distortion was together again (late 80's), Rancid, NOFX, Bad Religion, The Offspring. Not to say the punk scene never existed before this. If the clash, the Who, The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, ETC. Than punk wouldn't exist at all.
The thrash metal scene changed through Pantera, Megadeth, Sepultura, and Anthrax. The Motley Crue, Poison, Warrant scene was dead and what all started with Cowboys From Hell (1991), pantera's first thrash album, came one of the biggest turns in music. The Monsters of Rock concert in 1991 (Moscow) is the Woodstock of its time. Bands were so influenced by that they wanted to be just like the "True" Big 4 (Pantera, Anthrax, Megadeth, Sepultura). Metallica soon began copying these artists, and so did other various bands. Pantera continued to dominate the new metal scene and bring it to the next level with their future albums (Vulgar Display of Power, then Far Beyond Driven, and eventually the Great Southern Trendkill). Pantera progressively became "heavier" through their albums, and the music from the great band carried on. Down, Hellyeah, Black Label Society (The great Zakk Wylde and Rob Trujillo), Kill Devil Hill (Rex Brown), Godsmack, and various smaller bands continue to bring true music to this world, true in the sense that they play for the passion of music, not the $$$.
You may think differently of these two scenes (not genres, scenes, lifestyles for punk, at least), but these were never the mainstream scenes, because they were always inferior in popularity to...well... pop music during their times, mainly Michael Jackson and such. Gangster rap was also receiving more attention during the early 90's. The truth is that if it weren't for metal and punk, music would be very, very dead. Any of the bands I listed in the metal category should have a top 25 album, if not every single one. These lists are BS, and people judge any band that has a "metal" label to be either 1)emo 2)screamo 3)simply people who bang on their instruments in a recording studio... It isn't true.
zombieslayer
12 years ago

The last two or three decades is incorrect. the last 15 years would be much more accurate. The early 90's hosted two of the greatest turns in music. The thrash/grunge metal scene, and the skater-punk rock scene. For punk, Guttermouth was becoming big, Social Distortion was together again (late 80's), Rancid, NOFX, Bad Religion, The Offspring. Not to say the punk scene never existed before this. If the clash, the Who, The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, ETC. Than punk wouldn't exist at all.
The thrash metal scene changed through Pantera, Megadeth, Sepultura, and Anthrax. The Motley Crue, Poison, Warrant scene was dead and what all started with Cowboys From Hell (1991), pantera's first thrash album, came one of the biggest turns in music. The Monsters of Rock concert in 1991 (Moscow) is the Woodstock of its time. Bands were so influenced by that they wanted to be just like the "True" Big 4 (Pantera, Anthrax, Megadeth, Sepultura). Metallica soon began copying these artists, and so did other various bands. Pantera continued to dominate the new metal scene and bring it to the next level with their future albums (Vulgar Display of Power, then Far Beyond Driven, and eventually the Great Southern Trendkill). Pantera progressively became "heavier" through their albums, and the music from the great band carried on. Down, Hellyeah, Black Label Society (The great Zakk Wylde and Rob Trujillo), Kill Devil Hill (Rex Brown), Godsmack, and various smaller bands continue to bring true music to this world, true in the sense that they play for the passion of music, not the $$$.
You may think differently of these two scenes (not genres, scenes, lifestyles for punk, at least), but these were never the mainstream scenes, because they were always inferior in popularity to...well... pop music during their times, mainly Michael Jackson and such. Gangster rap was also receiving more attention during the early 90's. The truth is that if it weren't for metal and punk, music would be very, very dead. Any of the bands I listed in the metal category should have a top 25 album, if not every single one. These lists are BS, and people judge any band that has a "metal" label to be either 1)emo 2)screamo 3)simply people who bang on their instruments in a recording studio... It isn't true.

Originally Posted by: alharrisdude31 



Yes. I was a Metalhead in the 80s and will readily admit that the Metal written today is superior to the stuff my generation was putting out. I got a top 50 album list and more than half of it is 2000 on.

KanataThrilla described the author to a T.

I'm so sick of the "my generation is better than your generation" crap. I'll readily admit that they had great music. Heck, Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" is absolutely brilliant as were most of what they put out in the 70s. Metal started with bands like Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, and Judas Priest, all three starting in the late 60s. I'll give credit where it's due.

But this asshole who wrote the article won't. He's stuck in his own generation and just gives lip service to newer stuff that he probably doesn't even know very well.

And Pack93z, couldn't disagree with you more. There are plenty of damn good albums put out in the past 20 years. Only pop music focuses on videos. Real music is still written for albums.
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Why don't you all f-f-f-fade away





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12 years ago
[quote=wpr;205697]Why don't you all f-f-f-fade away

That's almost as bad as this:



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Why don't you all f-f-f-fade away

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That's almost as bad as this:

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I think the message is:
"If you don't like my generation f*** off."

Back in 67 it was intended for the older generation but it works just as well for the younger generation as well.

Some say the Boomer Generation is spoiled and is seeking entitlements. I say no generation in history has paid more in taxes to support this nation than the Boomer Generation has. They also have given more to charities than any other single generation. So until you can walk the walk shut up.

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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
I want to maintain my reputation here, but I really can't argue with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band being one of the greatest albums ever.
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12 years ago

That's almost as bad as this:

Originally Posted by: wpr 



I think the message is:
"If you don't like my generation f*** off."

Back in 67 it was intended for the older generation but it works just as well for the younger generation as well.

Some say the Boomer Generation is spoiled and is seeking entitlements. I say no generation in history has paid more in taxes to support this nation than the Boomer Generation has. They also have given more to charities than any other single generation. So until you can walk the walk shut up.



Please explain why everything has gone to shit on your watch then.


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Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



Please explain why everything has gone to shit on your watch then.



The world is a shitty place and it has gotten worse over time. It will continue to do so regardless of who is in charge.
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