zombieslayer
13 years ago
I'd prefer to keep Wells. He's a good C. We went into 2011 one OL short already.
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DakotaT
13 years ago
I'd give him a 3 year $20M contract - take it or leave it. That's a 31 year old body that has been giving up 30 lbs a play for the last 6 years. It'll break down sooner than later.
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porky88
13 years ago
You don't deviate from the plan. Frankly, I think Wells is the best center in the NFC, but you can't give out bad contracts. The Packers have to pay Greg Jennings, who is in the final year of his deal, Clay Matthews, Jermichael Finley, and B.J. Raji. They're all younger and arguably more valuable than Wells. It's looking more likely that Wells won't be back, so the Packers may go all in and pursue Peter Konz in the draft.
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13 years ago

You don't deviate from the plan. Frankly, I think Wells is the best center in the NFC, but you can't give out bad contracts. The Packers have to pay Greg Jennings, who is in the final year of his deal, Clay Matthews, Jermichael Finley, and B.J. Raji. They're all younger and arguably more valuable than Wells. It's looking more likely that Wells won't be back, so the Packers may go all in and pursue Peter Konz in the draft.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



I think there are 4 legitimate centers coming out this year so going all in doesn't make any sense when you consider the defensive talent upgrades needed in the draft. If Konz is there, take him, but he isn't worth trading up for. I think we are making more of this than we need to.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
Let's not forget that a draft pick used to replace Wells is a draft pick that could have been used elsewhere. Our D was #19, and it was only #19 because we created a lot of takeaways because we couldn't tackle worth a damn. If it weren't for the takeaways, our D would have been probably mid-20s or worse.

This thread, some folks put Wells at top 5, some said he's over-rated. I don't think anyone thinks Wells is a bad player. I'd rather sign him and keep the draft pick.
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porky88
13 years ago

I think there are 4 legitimate centers coming out this year so going all in doesn't make any sense when you consider the defensive talent upgrades needed in the draft. If Konz is there, take him, but he isn't worth trading up for. I think we are making more of this than we need to.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


Well, the Packers could dip into free agency. For example, Chris Myers is a very, very good center, but Houston wants him back. Ted Thompson usually doesn’t pursue veterans. Maybe he makes an exception because the Packers have no alternatives on the roster to Wells.

Konz is on the level of Maurkice Pouncey. I think jumping ahead of Cincinnati would be an ideal scenario. It'd cost an extra pick, maybe one next year, but it's worth it if you think Konz is as valuable as Pouncey. I think he is. Frankly, he's better than Mike Pouncey, who went in the top 20 last year.

There's a drop off in the rest of the class. Michael Brewster is overrated. I'm sure most pro scouts know this. He was highly touted recruit and played at Ohio State. That's why there's some hype there. The internet still has some catching up. I do like Ben Jones, though. He'd be a nice second round addition, but again, I don't think he lasts very long in the second round. Having four or five interior lineman with potential first round grades makes this a great class at first glimpse, but after the dust settles, it's not deep after those four or five. You start to get into your potential T.J. Langs of the world.
gbguy20
13 years ago
Not resigning him leaves us unable to draft one of our other significant needs. This sucks.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

Not resigning him leaves us unable to draft one of our other significant needs. This sucks.

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Doesn't scare me. We don't have THAT many needs.
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13 years ago
we have at least 2 pressing needs, but that's another thread.
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DoddPower
13 years ago

I'd rather sign him and keep the draft pick.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 



Zombie, I think most of us around here would agree with the statement that it'd be better to just keep Wells and save the draft pick (unless Konz falls). However, it's often just not that simple. Player preference, salary cap management, etc. all come into the equation, which obviously isn't a surprise to anyone. I'm sure Ted Thompson would like him back. It's just not as simple as resigning him and bringing him back. Hopefully something can be worked out. Wells just seems a little butt-hurt.

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