DakotaT
12 years ago

Mario Williams played in a 3 - 4 last season, until he was injured. He played in five games, had five sacks. Two games with 2.0 sacks and one game with 1.0 sack. He sure started off just fine as an OLB in the 3 - 4.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



How'd he do turning his hips and running with the Tight Ends and Running Backs? Okay, end of discussion. OLB in a 3-4 is a special position that takes an exceptional athlete to play aspects of the position.


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12 years ago

How'd he do turning his hips and running with the Tight Ends and Running Backs? Okay, end of discussion. OLB in a 3-4 is a special position that takes an exceptional athlete to play aspects of the position.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



*4PackGirl thinking...* "Oh I just love it when you talk about turning his hips and running with a tight end!"
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porky88
12 years ago

How'd he do turning his hips and running with the Tight Ends and Running Backs? Okay, end of discussion. OLB in a 3-4 is a special position that takes an exceptional athlete to play aspects of the position.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


Williams is a special athlete. Plus, OLBs don't turn and run with TEs as much as people think. The Cowboys rush DeMarcus Ware around 90% of the time. When he doesn't rush, he's usually dropping into zone. Of course, Dom Capers is more creative in how he uses guys, but any 3-4 team that grabs Williams probably uses Ware as the guideline.

For the record, I do agree that I like him with his hand on the ground more. However, some people seem to be overlooking just how special of a player he is. Frankly, I think his best football is ahead of him, which makes him rare commodity on the free agent market. He’s a better signing than Julius Peppers.
Stevetarded
12 years ago

Mario Williams played in a 3 - 4 last season, until he was injured. He played in five games, had five sacks. Two games with 2.0 sacks and one game with 1.0 sack. He sure started off just fine as an OLB in the 3 - 4.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



He started off fine but he was also playing on a stacked defense that didn't miss a beat without him. It really doesn't seem like good business to me to give a 50+ million dollar contract to a guy who has played 4 and a half games at the position you are paying him for even if he started off fine at that position.

I'd be fine paying that kind of money to someone who is more proven at that position like Ware or Hali but most teams simply don't let guys like that go because they can't afford to lose them.
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Stevetarded
12 years ago

Williams is a special athlete. Plus, OLBs don't turn and run with TEs as much as people think. The Cowboys rush DeMarcus Ware around 90% of the time. When he doesn't rush, he's usually dropping into zone. Of course, Dom Capers is more creative in how he uses guys, but any 3-4 team that grabs Williams probably uses Ware as the guideline.

For the record, I do agree that I like him with his hand on the ground more. However, some people seem to be overlooking just how special of a player he is. Frankly, I think his best football is ahead of him, which makes him rare commodity on the free agent market. He’s a better signing than Julius Peppers.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



He's had at least 10 sacks in only 2 out of 6 seasons. He's good but he isn't really all that special. He also seems to be a bit injury prone the last couple years.
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DoddPower
12 years ago

Williams is a special athlete. Plus, OLBs don't turn and run with TEs as much as people think. The Cowboys rush DeMarcus Ware around 90% of the time. When he doesn't rush, he's usually dropping into zone. Of course, Dom Capers is more creative in how he uses guys, but any 3-4 team that grabs Williams probably uses Ware as the guideline.

For the record, I do agree that I like him with his hand on the ground more. However, some people seem to be overlooking just how special of a player he is. Frankly, I think his best football is ahead of him, which makes him rare commodity on the free agent market. He’s a better signing than Julius Peppers.

Originally Posted by: porky88 



Yeah, I don't understand why people are underestimating him. The guy is a truly rare athlete. No, I can't imagine ANY scenario in which Ted Thompson will pay him, but whatever team does will be getting one hell of a player, no matter how they play him. An elite pass rusher is an elite pass rusher, regardless of scheme. Not to mention he never got much help in Houston, much like Clay this season for us. As you mentioned, have him rushing AT LEAST 85% with the occasional zone blitz (BJ Raji in NFC Championship, anyone?). It would really work well with a player like CM3 on the other side since he is such a good coverage player. Offenses would wonder each play "Is Clay rushing or dropping? We have to double Williams, but what to do with Clay??" It would be a nightmare, for sure.

The guy is going to get PAID, and rightfully so. He's among the elite of the elite currently. I wouldn't worry about his recovery at all.
nerdmann
12 years ago
How big is he? Is it inconceivable that he could play 3-4 DE?
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

How'd he do turning his hips and running with the Tight Ends and Running Backs? Okay, end of discussion. OLB in a 3-4 is a special position that takes an exceptional athlete to play aspects of the position.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



You ask me a question, then don't allow me to answer? Don't waste my time asking if you're going to be condescending. He turned his hips like Tina Turner, you dig!!
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DakotaT
12 years ago

You ask me a question, then don't allow me to answer? Don't waste my time asking if you're going to be condescending. He turned his hips like Tina Turner, you dig!!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I don't want a guy like Williams that needs to rush 90% of the time. I want another guy like Matthews, that can play all over the field and not be predictable. I'll stand by what I say that Mario's a 4-3 DE not a 3-4 OLB.


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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

I don't want a guy like Williams that needs to rush 90% of the time. I want another guy like Matthews, that can play all over the field and not be predictable. I'll stand by what I say that Mario's a 4-3 DE not a 3-4 OLB.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I thought the thread was about the Packers draft needs, not whether Mario Williams is a DE in the 4 - 3, or a OLB in the 3 - 4. I think you're right, he's probably better at DE than OLB. Although he sure did well at OLB in those few games. That's pretty damn impressive, no denying that. I wouldn't mind the Packers picking him up, I just don't like the idea of making him the top paid defensive player in the NFL. And Mario Williams has said he's not looking for money, he's looking for the right place.

Even if the Packers land Mario Williams, I think they still have to draft another prospect because of the injury bug he seems to have.
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