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zombieslayer
12 years ago
Zero - I wasn't calling you out. I was defending the writer's position. But I kept it vague at OL. I didn't specifically say OT because the way our OL works, Ts can play Gs and vice versa when injuries happen. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฒ specially said he thinks more in terms of Left vs Right than T vs G.

I'd draft 2 OL, one because we're currently one short and one to hopefully upgrade the unit. Maybe even 3 because Cliffy is gone in '12. But I trust ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡น here because if there's not enough quality in the later rounds for OL, we'll stick with 2. No sense wasting a draft pick.
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Laser Gunns
12 years ago
this may sound nitpicky, but IMO Wynn simply does not have the body-type to be a sucsessful 34 DE.

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compare his narrow frame to the better ends in the league..

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I don't know if you guys are smelling what i'm cookin'... but it's bugged me since he was left the starting gig.






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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
Care to provide the better DE's measurements instead of pictures??
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zombieslayer
12 years ago
I think the pictures look fine. In the case of a 3-4, you need that "extra weight" in the DL as you pretty much are plugs.

Although, there still has to be one guy on the DL who can generate pressure. We don't have that. (Yeah, I know I've said that 3 times now in one thread but it's been bugging me this whole year).

And where did my avatar go? [aiee]
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago
There is nothing wrong with the pictures, I'm just equally interested in the numbers. You're not a stats person, you wouldn't understand.
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Rios39
12 years ago
We need DL help at least get a rotation or something going... But having Clay along with a pass rusher from the blind side will make the QB edgy and know he's got to get it out FAST. You need Raji and one other pocket pusher..But we need some sort of rotation so our big guys don't wear down.
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12 years ago

If they are advocating using yet ANOTHER 1st round (3 years in a row) on Tackle, they are dumbasses, the both of them! ๐Ÿ™‚

I think first round, take the best player available and we hope it's a DE or more hopefully, a OLB.


Besides, neither dfosterf or Wade actually string together reasoning other than 'oooh draft OL, draft OL' post after post. I know they (like myself) are saddened and heartbroken Ted Thompson failed the Packers by letting Daryn Colledge leave, but c'mon man!! [boxing]

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Hah! Kevin definitely needs to break off that affair with Mrs. C. It's rotting his brain.

Herewith the reasoning:

1. Without an offensive line of quality, the odds that Rodgers gets knocked out of game(s) increase. If Rodgers gets knocked out for any significant time, the chance that the Packers go to the SuperBowl nosedives.
2. Without an offensive line of quality, one needs a Barry Sanders to have a meaningful running game. The Packers don't have a Barry Sanders.
2A. And even Barry Sanders got tackled behind a lot when he lacked an offensive line of quality (i.e., his entire NFL career, which also involved no trips to the SuperBowl.
3. Without a meaningful running game, you can't depend on keeping possession in the fourth quarter. If you can't depend on keeping possession in the fourth quarter, you can't depend on winning as many close games.
4. Without an offensive line of quality, you are more dependent on receivers separating quickly. The more dependent on receivers separating quickly you are, the more likely you will have more interceptions/incompletions/sacks when the quarterback has less time. Ergo, without an offensive line of quality, you are less likely to sustain drives and you are going to be able to make fewer big plays downfield.
etc.

Actually my refrain this year is a bit different:

OL DL OL DL OL.

If the best OL available is a LT, then draft LT. If best OL available isn't a LT, draft another OL position.

It doesn't matter what they played in college. It matters what they can play in a dominant way in the pros.

"1. 2. 3. Dominate!" -- Aaron Rodgers.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Yerko
12 years ago
Jarius Wynn- Height: 6-3 Weight: 285

compared to...

Haloti Ngata- Height: 6-4 Weight: 330

Justin Smith- Height: 6-4 Weight: 285 (practically identical)

Cullen Jenkins- Height: 6-2 Weight: 305
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12 years ago

Hah! Kevin definitely needs to break off that affair with Mrs. C. It's rotting his brain.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



He did leave WI to be closer to her and then after she dumped him he did sneak back.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago
I'll add though that ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡น will be drafting a WR because that's how he rolls.
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