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12 years ago

Another guy who I really like the thought of as a big money FA OLB prospect, and also a DE who would have to convert is Cliff Avril. Looks like the Lions might not have the salary cap room to re-sign him, and he has ideal OLB size, at 6'3" 260 lbs. 11 1/2 sacks, something like 6 forced fumbles last year, two TDs, and he's only 25 years old.

Of course, I'm trying not to get my hopes up for big FAs, because that's not how Ted rolls, but it just sounds so tempting.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau 




Uncle Teddy zigs when everyone else zags. It would not shock me if he pulls in one big ticket FA this year to bolster the defense. He did land Woody. Of course it would not surprise me if he takes a pass like he usually does.
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Stevetarded
12 years ago

Uncle Teddy zigs when everyone else zags. It would not shock me if he pulls in one big ticket FA this year to bolster the defense. He did land Woody. Of course it would not surprise me if he takes a pass like he usually does.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



It's not so much that he takes a pass he just waits until everyone else is done competing for FAs and grabs up the leftovers if anyone good is left. I don't think he has any problem with signing a FA if he can get a good deal on him.
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Zero2Cool
12 years ago

It's not so much that he takes a pass he just waits until everyone else is done competing for FAs and grabs up the leftovers if anyone good is left. I don't think he has any problem with signing a FA if he can get a good deal on him.

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 


I've always felt that Ted Thompson prefers not to pay Grade A money for Grade C talent. I'm not saying there are no Grade A talents in Free Agency, I'm merely using that as an example to state Ted Thompson doesn't believe in overpaying for a player.

Although, at times, I kind of wish he would. Then the argument goes to, if they are available via Free Agency, chances are, there's a good reason for it.
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12 years ago

I've always felt that Ted Thompson prefers not to pay Grade A money for Grade C talent. I'm not saying there are no Grade A talents in Free Agency, I'm merely using that as an example to state Ted Thompson doesn't believe in overpaying for a player.

Although, at times, I kind of wish he would. Then the argument goes to, if they are available via Free Agency, chances are, there's a good reason for it.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



And then if you have a a rare, truly Grade A talent, like Mario Williams or Cliff Avril, the money usually goes way past Grade A to "sell your soul" kind of money.

Maybe now that the Packers are such a strong young team poised to make a long run with their franchise QB, there might be an FA or two who would take a fair offer from GB over a crazy money offer from, say, Washington. Dare to dream, I guess.

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all_about_da_packers
12 years ago

I've always felt that Ted Thompson prefers not to pay Grade A money for Grade C talent. I'm not saying there are no Grade A talents in Free Agency, I'm merely using that as an example to state Ted Thompson doesn't believe in overpaying for a player.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I wonder if - in light of Rodgers' quote about Canty - we can amend that statement to say that Ted is willing to overpay, but will not break the bank for a player that has no real interest in coming to the city at all.

Wishful thinking, I'd guess, but maybe Ted finally does splurge this year and overpay? I'd doubt it, but sign me up for going after Mario Williams. I'm still reminded of Reggie McKenzie's quote that he'd have been dancing in the streets of GB had Williams slipped to them... maybe Ted feels something similar.
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12 years ago

I'm still reminded of Reggie McKenzie's quote that he'd have been dancing in the streets of GB had Williams slipped to them... maybe Ted feels something similar.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 



Interesting. I hadn't heard that. Makes sense though. Williams is one of those rare elite big men that Thompson always talks about that "God only makes so many of."
Nonstopdrivel
12 years ago
Is it just me, or do the Packers have a lousy track record lately of converting DEs to OLBs? I wonder why they think they will do any better with Neal?
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Packers_Finland
12 years ago

Is it just me, or do the Packers have a lousy track record lately of converting DEs to OLBs? I wonder why they think they will do any better with Neal?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



How do you mean DEs to OLBs? You mean 4-3 DEs to 3-4 OLBs?

It's a lot harder to do from a 4-3 DT to a 3-4 OLB, which is what they're doing in Neal's case.
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zombieslayer
12 years ago

Uncle Teddy zigs when everyone else zags. It would not shock me if he pulls in one big ticket FA this year to bolster the defense. He did land Woody. Of course it would not surprise me if he takes a pass like he usually does.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



He does occasionally do things that surprise us. 2008, our biggest weakness was D and that's why we had a Vikings, I mean losing record.

2009, he lands CM3 and Raji in the draft and the 3-4 works for 2 years and we're back in the hunt, with two trips to the Playoffs and a SB win.

2011, once again our problem is D. Our O falters one day and our D couldn't bail us out. So what will 🇹🇹 do? It's anyone's guess, but I'm guessing he goes either heavily after a pass rusher or he moves up in the draft to get one.
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nerdmann
12 years ago
Given that our current team is good, players might be willing to take a little less to come in and compete for a ring. Just a thought.
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