Zero2Cool
13 years ago
According to Bob McGinn  these are some bad decisions by the Packers in 2011.

Barnett started all 16 games and played almost every down for the Buffalo Bills, leading them in tackles with 130 and notching four turnover plays. He never missed a day of practice due to injury. His three-year contract averaged $3.8 million.

Hawk started 15 games, playing almost every down. He finished third in tackles with 109 and didn't have a turnover play. His contract averaged $6.75 million.

Bob McGinn  wrote:


He says signing A.J. Hawk and letting Nick Barnett go was a mistake. Barnett did have a fairly decent season last year, but I think it brings up a good question. Would it have been better to have Hawk or Barnett? I'm not sure and haven't thought much about it.


He says relying on Mike Neal to replace the oft injured Cullen Jenkins was a mistake. And that Jenkins should have been brought back. I agree, but Jenkins asking price was pretty high and didn't drop until only the Saints and Eagles got involved. Either way, I always wanted Jenkins back, just didn't want to break the bank for him. I think $6 million a year is good, but reports were he wanted $8+ per.


He says the 32nd selection should have been used on Jabaal Sheard, Brooks Reed or Da'Quan Bowers instead of Derek Sherrod. I don't know enough about the players mentioned to have an opinion.


He says "The Packers' last chance to reinforce their rush ended when they took Randall Cobb over outside linebacker Justin Houston at No. 64. A part-time starter as Kansas City's pick at No. 70, Houston posted 5½ sacks.". I think selecting Randall Cobb was a good selection.


He says selecting Ricky Elmore in the 6th round was his worst pick ever. How is this worse than Justin Harrell? lol


Anyhow, read the whole article, it's riddle with bitterness and well done.


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musccy
13 years ago
As a whole I agree with the points made in the argument, although much of the article's points are based on looking at things in hindsight. All of us are geniuses when we can criticize after the fact.

His criticism of the Cobb pick was by far the worst point in the article. The Packers have not had a legitimate return threat in 5+ years, and at the time of the draft, J.J. and D.D's status were in the air. Even in hindsight, this was a great pick.

Rios39
13 years ago
We won the SB with Hawk and Bishop. Hawk could be upgraded upon only if we can get a more playmaking LB. Hawk is solid though.
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rabidgopher04
13 years ago
Barnett consistently led the Packers in tackles, but I think it was time for him to have a fresh start somewhere else.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

Barnett consistently led the Packers in tackles, but I think it was time for him to have a fresh start somewhere else.

Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 


Hawk is younger than Barnett and far more reliable as far as health. DJ Smith was a rookie, who missed out on the offseason due to the lockout.

As for Neal, that didn't work out, but Jenkins was aging and missing more time with injury every year.

Love the Cobb pick. Kid's explosive.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
What is completely missing from this is that Barnett kicks ass in 4-3. He sucks in 3-4. We are 3-4.

Barnett > Hawk in 4-3. By far. In 3-4, Hawk > Barnett. By a little. The argument can be made that we made a bad monetary decision by paying Hawk too much. I understand that. But if we stay 3-4, Barnett doesn't have a place on the team.

As for the rest of the article, was 2011 one of 🇹🇹's better drafts? Apparently not. So we missed out on some good defenders.
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gbguy20
13 years ago
What surprises me most about these articles is that I didn't hear a single thing all season about how "bad" hawk was playing and suddenly his resigning is Ted's worst move as GM blah blah.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

What surprises me most about these articles is that I didn't hear a single thing all season about how "bad" hawk was playing and suddenly his resigning is Ted's worst move as GM blah blah.

Originally Posted by: gbguy20 


Everyone is a genius after the fact. Including us, lol.
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nerdmann
13 years ago
Keep in mind also that Barnett never shut his pie hole, even to the point of causing a distraction the week before the Superbowl, in which not him but the rest of his team was playing.
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evad04
13 years ago

Keep in mind also that Barnett never shut his pie hole, even to the point of causing a distraction the week before the Superbowl, in which not him but the rest of his team was playing.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


Yeah, but "distractions" like that are almost always contingent upon a shameless, drama-craved media that seek controversy like a hooker to smack.

Most people in Packer nation were content to let Barnett go. His injury history had stacked up enough to merit legitimate concern. And, Hawk had arguably his best season last year. Based on the information they had at the time, resigning Hawk made a lot of sense. As it has been mentioned, everyone is an expert in hindsight.

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