GermanGilbert
13 years ago

The only way a trade for Flynn happens is behind the scenes. The team that really wants him will agree to the trade terms prior to the free agency period. They will negotiate his contract, but we will be signing him to it and then trading Matt to them.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



If it happens this way, the Packers would take the cap hit of Flynn's new contract's signing bonus in 2012. I doubt Ted Thompson would do this, therefore the only way I can see Flynn traded, is after being franchise tagged.
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DakotaT
13 years ago

If it happens this way, the Packers would take the cap hit of Flynn's new contract's signing bonus in 2012. I doubt Ted Thompson would do this, therefore the only way I can see Flynn traded, is after being franchise tagged.

Originally Posted by: GermanGilbert 




And here I thought I had it all figured out. So what it boils down to then is after the Super Bowl we'll have to pay YOTTO, because you can't just let Flynn walk without being compensated.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
I think some of us need to read the CBA regarding Franchise Tag's. 🙂
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rabidgopher04
13 years ago

I think some of us need to read the CBA regarding Franchise Tag's. :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



That's TT's job. Ours is to pretend like we know what we're talking about while spending our money on the team.
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DakotaT
13 years ago

I think some of us need to read the CBA regarding Franchise Tag's. :)

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Why read when you can wing it?
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Why read when you can wing it?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 


There is also a transition tag isn't there? We could transition Finley and franchise Flynn.

We would have the right to match any offer Finley got. So if he doesn't get another offer, we keep him. If he gets a reasonable offer, we have a right to match. If he gets too big of an offer, he is gone.

Then trade Flynn like the Patriots did with Cassel. What did they get, something like 2 1st round picks for Cassel?

What could Thompson do with 4 first rounders in the next 2 years?

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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
I think it's incredibly optimistic to assume that other teams will fork over $14 million in cash, not to mention the high draft picks, that would be necessary to wrest a franchise-tagged Matt Flynn away from the Packers. The man has only started two games in his career, and while he performed admirably yesterday (his long passes were impressive), he looked rather noodle armed on the long passes in the Patriot game. He is 1-1 in his starting career. Even Kevin Kolb, as outlandish as the deal made for him was, had started, what, three or four games before he was traded? The main advantage Flynn has over Kolb is that he doesn't have an injury history.

It's possible someone will be desperate enough to roll the dice like that, but I think Ted Thompson has made it obvious over the years he is much more of a poker player than a gambler. In a year in which the Packers need to start sewing up several other key components to this team -- including, conceivably, giving Aaron Rodgers a raise if they win the Super Bowl again -- locking up that much money in the quarterback position would seriously hamstring the Packers' flexibility. Short of having an ironclad, behind-the-scenes guarantee from another team that they will trade for Flynn (in which case, why wouldn't they just wait for free agency?), I don't see Ted Thompson making this move. He has proven himself confident time and time again in the organization's ability to bring up fresh talent through the ranks. Graham Harrell has shown immense improvement from last year, and to me it's obvious the Packers are looking at him as the heir apparent to the backup position.

My guess is that Thompson lets Flynn walk in free agency, contents himself with whatever compensatory picks come his way, and drafts another quarterback somewhere in the middle to late rounds.
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dhpackr
13 years ago
I agree with the title of this thread. Matt is a starting QB, and right now there are three teams that would like to add him to their roster (Chicago, Washington, Seattle).

A franchise tag makes no sense because plainly and simply, the guy is going to want to start in the NFL, and not be a backup his entire career.

Trading makes no sense because we (The Packers) have no power, Flynn is not our players after the season.

How can you trade a player you have no contract with?

He is moving on, and Ted Thompson will continue to draft and develop young QB's..
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago
Flynn can be traded if he is tagged. That is the only reason to tag him. The major risk of tagging him, though, is that no team wants to take him at the franchise price, and then the Packers are on the hook paying two quarterbacks starting money next year.
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earthquake
13 years ago

Flynn can be traded if he is tagged. That is the only reason to tag him. The major risk of tagging him, though, is that no team wants to take him at the franchise price, and then the Packers are on the hook paying two quarterbacks starting money next year.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Any team who would consider signing Flynn would be paying him a lot of money in the first year anyway, so I dont think the money aspect is really that big of a deal. The bigger concern is being able to trade him period. Its why the pats jumped on the 2nd round pick for Cassel when they probably could have gotten first or better.

Cassel got 14 million, and then an average of about 13 million for the next 3 years(63 mill, 6 year contract total). So there certainly is precedent for it, though Cassel had a lot more playing time than Flynn has had.
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