Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Ah yes. Forgot Manning broke it in '04 before Brady broke it.

So, who breaks Brady's - Brees or 🇦🇷? Even though I think 🇦🇷 is the better QB, 🇲🇲 is more likely to rest 🇦🇷 than Peyton is to rest Brees so I think it's more likely Brees.

🇦🇷 is at 45 right now and I doubt 🇦🇷 even walks into the field in the 2nd half. Brees is at 41 so this year is out of the question.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 


Peyton lost 3 key players at Safety, TE and RB by not getting them off the field for a meaningless game last year. Then they lost to Seattle.

I doubt they will risk anything this week. Just to run up the score again to get another record.
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dhazer
13 years ago
The Saints are playing for something and the Packers are not. The true MVP this year should actually be Peyton manthing, look how shitty the Colts have been without him lol. I think Rodgers gets it in a very close 3 way battle.
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Porforis
13 years ago

The Saints are playing for something and the Packers are not. The true MVP this year should actually be Peyton manthing, look how shitty the Colts have been without him lol. I think Rodgers gets it in a very close 3 way battle.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Because clearly the Colts haven't regressed significantly in any other category.
zombieslayer
13 years ago

The Saints are playing for something and the Packers are not. The true MVP this year should actually be Peyton manthing, look how shitty the Colts have been without him lol. I think Rodgers gets it in a very close 3 way battle.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
I did some quick math

Rodgers completion % (68.3%) + Packers drop %(8%) - Saints drop %(4%) = adjusted completion % (73.3%)

This is what Rodgers completion % would be if we only had the same percentage of drops as the Saints

Rodgers adjusted completion % (72.3%) * Brees' attempts (622) = adjusted completions (450 completions)

This is what Rodgers completions Rodgers would have if he threw as often as Brees and the WRs dropped as few as the Saints.

Rodgers average per completion (13.4 yards) * adjusted commpletions (450) = adjusted yards (6030 yards)

This is how many yards Rodgers would have if he had as many attempts as Brees and had as few dropped passes.

Rodgers TD/Completions (12.4%) * Rodgers' adjusted completions (450) = adjusted TDs (56 TDs)

This is how many TDs Rodgers would have if he threw as often and had as few drops.

Rodgers' INT/completion (1.75%) * Rodgers' adjusted completions (450) = adjusted INTs (8 INTs)

This is how many INTs Rodgers would have if he threw as often and had as few drops as Brees.

Summary:
If Rodgers had as many attempts as Brees and as few drops he would be

450 comp of 622 attempts for 6030 yards with 56 TDs 8 picks and 72.3% completions.

In 15 games.

That isn't even counting the Saints playing in domes 12 times.
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Stevetarded
13 years ago

The Saints are playing for something and the Packers are not. The true MVP this year should actually be Peyton manthing, look how shitty the Colts have been without him lol. I think Rodgers gets it in a very close 3 way battle.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 




Peyton has taken 26 million dollars from the Colts this year and hasn't taken a snap. Wouldn't that make him the least valuable?
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gbguy20
13 years ago

Peyton has taken 26 million dollars from the Colts this year and hasn't taken a snap. Wouldn't that make him the least valuable?

Originally Posted by: Stevetarded 




This is on the right track.

Using the argument that Peyton should be MVP because his team is complete garbage without him should be offset because if it wasn't for his outrageous contract then they could actually afford a supporting cast to make his team less awful.

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nerdmann
13 years ago

This is on the right track.

Using the argument that Peyton should be MVP because his team is complete garbage without him should be offset because if it wasn't for his outrageous contract then they could actually afford a supporting cast to make his team less awful.

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He's "pulling a Favre," inasmuch as he wouldn't let them have a viable backup. Favre was all about "just let me compete" that year, but damn. When Ted Thompson drafted Arodge, Favre sure didn't like having that guy behind him.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

He's "pulling a Favre," inasmuch as he wouldn't let them have a viable backup. Favre was all about "just let me compete" that year, but damn. When Ted Thompson drafted Arodge, Favre sure didn't like having that guy behind him.

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Brett's biggest fear was being replaced. That's why he always went back in even if he was hurt. He didn't want what happened to Don Majkowski to happen to him.
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13 years ago



Summary:
If Rodgers had as many attempts as Brees and as few drops he would be

450 comp of 622 attempts for 6030 yards with 56 TDs 8 picks and 72.3% completions.

In 15 games.

That isn't even counting the Saints playing in domes 12 times.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



If Brees had Colston for a couple of more games, he gets a 100 more yards, etc. Where does it stop? I think there are a lot of HUGE assumptions in that analysis. May be with more pass attempts, Rodgers gets sacked more and gets hurt, who knows. What happened, happened, you can't discredit Brees's season IMO.

I think Brees record is BS because of passing statistics these days (including QB ratings) but he is still having an awesome season. I think its insane if Rodgers does not win in a romp due to the Dome thing but honestly I don't think NFL voters factor that stuff in (and arguably may be they should not as you can't punish someone for playing a Dome). I think Brees is have a world class season and I am not going to take anything away from that but I think its not even close - Rodgers in a romp. If Rodgers didn't have the Bears game and went 200 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT or something, its much closer but I think after the Bears game, its OVER.
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