Zero2Cool
13 years ago

So even in your dreams you're not overly fast. Man, how slow must you be in real life?

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 


Physically or Mentally? lol


Anyboobies, I wouldn't mind seeing Brandon Saine get some action. Lord knows that Starks fella and Grant dude are not pumping out 100 yard games for the Packers at all.
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Rockmolder
13 years ago

From the article, it said something about 4.4 speed. I run that fast in my sleep.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Track guy. He set a division 1 record on the 100 meter dash, won a couple of state championships and a national championships.

The guy has some speed.

This is from an article from 2006... 

Ginn, who will be a junior at OSU this fall, is a versatile wide receiver who also runs sweeps and reverses and boasts tremendous speed. Saine has those same qualities. The powerful 6-foot 210-pounder can bench-press 305 pounds and recently was hand-timed at a blazing 4.2 seconds in the 40-yard dash.



Anyway, I'm not going along with Nerdmann's ridiculous mancrushes on every single new RB we sign. From what I've seen, I don't know why he'd be better than Grant. A guy who's biggest asset, at his size, is his speed and very little else that sets him apart.
zombieslayer
13 years ago
Um....

Ryan Grant is not our 3rd down back and never will be. He is our starting HB because 🇲🇲 and 🇹🇹 want to get their money's worth before they let him go prior to the 2012 season. Grant used to be a top 10 RB. As I have feared, he didn't heal completely from injury.

Saine won't be leapfrogging Grant because Grant > Saine, despite Grant not healing completely from injury.

🇹🇹 will draft a RB in 2012 who will be our #2 RB behind Starks. Saine will not be that person.

What Dakota said was right on. We may have our replacement to Brandon Jackson. Yay! I'm not getting my hopes up though.
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buckeyepackfan
13 years ago
Ryan Grant........69 carries...251yds..3.6avg...long 14....td's 0

James Starks....109 carries...503yds..4.6avg...long 40....td's 1

Alex Green.........3 carries... 11yds..3.7avg...long 8....td's 0

I agree with Zombie, Grant is listed as the starter, although Starks has recieved more carries and has a better stat line.

This is one of the things I really like about this team, they don't seem to get all caught up in "labels".

Just looking at the stats, I wonder how burnt out either back would be if they had to carry the whole load the first 9 games. Combined that would be 178 carries for 754yds, that would be very impressive, but not realistic.

The running game is going to get more important as the weather turns, instead of having 1RB who would probably be wearing down at this point, The Packers have 2 really good backs who remain fresh and ready for the playoff stretch.

As far as Brandon Saine, I sure hope he gets a few chances this week and performs well.

From watching him at Ohio State, he has the ability to be a receiver out of the backfield and he was an above average blocker, if he can show he can contribute at this level it would just be another plus for The Packers offense.
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13 years ago
Grant won't be back next year. They are preparing for the future.
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nerdmann
13 years ago
Grant is the starter, because they want to give props to him as a veteran. Starks has surpassed him. Green and Saine are better than Grant too, imo. They just haven't gotten their shots yet. Not saying that because I have a mancrush. Only because it's true.
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evad04
13 years ago

Grant is the starter, because they want to give props to him as a veteran.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


This is total speculation. I'm fine with it, but as long as we all agree it's speculation.

Starks has surpassed him.


Agreed. Though Grant has always been a player who seems to heat up with more carries. The one time this year he was given the load, he rushed it 19 times for 92 yards.

Green and Saine are better than Grant too, imo. They just haven't gotten their shots yet. Not saying that because I have a mancrush. Only because it's true.


You saying it's true doesn't make it true. What evidence is there for either of these guys being better than Rodgers?
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go.pack.go.
13 years ago

Green and Saine are better than Grant too, imo. They just haven't gotten their shots yet.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



That's like saying Matt Flynn is better than Rodgers, he just hasn't gotten a shot yet. You can't say they're better unless you have seen them in a starting role. Brandon Saine hasn't even seen the field once in the NFL as a RB.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

That's like saying Matt Flynn is better than Rodgers, he just hasn't gotten a shot yet. You can't say they're better unless you have seen them in a starting role. Brandon Saine hasn't even seen the field once in the NFL as a RB.

Originally Posted by: go.pack.go. 




To clarify, they haven't gained as many yards in the NFL as Grant, but I believe their skill sets are superior. Hows that? Based upon empirical observation of them in action.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago
Fast isn't the same as good.

It looks like if Saine gets any action it will be filling in for Starks.
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