nerdmann
13 years ago
Nagler has an interesting article about Arodge playing more cautiously with a lead in the second half.  I know these forums go through these phases where suddenly everyone has to agree with everyone and anyone who has a discordant view gets vilified, and I don't mean to go soft on you and start caving in under pressure to conform. But Nagler does make an interesting point here.
Maybe it's not that MM gets conservative. Maybe they're not going into a "lull," or whatever you want to call it, as much as they're just playing smart football, especially on the road.
I think Nagler makes a very interesting point here, and I think I agree with him if his observations are correct. I haven't gone back and rewatched games to be sure. Not sure I completely agree though. We'll see as the season goes on.
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13 years ago
going conservative is certainly frustrating to fans (myself included) but the name of the game is to run the clock out. It isn't college where they try and run up the score to get a better standing in the polls.
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Greg C.
13 years ago
I haven't noticed Rodgers being more conservative, but it's believable because I thought the play-calling in the second half of the win over the Rams was nearly identical to the play-calling in the first half. The same thing goes for the play-calling in the fourth quarter of the Vikings game--at least until the very end, of course, when they ran the ball six straight times because it was working.
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El3ment12
13 years ago
There's advantages and disadvantages to playing conservative. When Starks keeps getting us 1st downs there is no reason to throw it. I think Mccarthy knows when and when not to be conservative.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

There's advantages and disadvantages to playing conservative. When Starks keeps getting us 1st downs there is no reason to throw it. I think Mccarthy knows when and when not to be conservative.

Originally Posted by: El3ment12 



I think you're wrong about Mike McCarthy knowing when to be conservative. If he had head coached a Super Bowl winning team, perhaps I could side with you.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

I think you're wrong about Mike McCarthy knowing when to be conservative. If he had head coached a Super Bowl winning team, perhaps I could side with you.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 




Just because someone wins a Superbowl, doesn't mean he's doing things right.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Just because someone wins a Superbowl, doesn't mean he's doing things right.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


if winning a super bowl is wrong, here's hoping the Packers are wrong every year.
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Packers_Finland
13 years ago
The only game I've been irritated in because we have been too conservative is the Vikings game. I mean, in the end they got way too close. Should've put them away earlier. I don't know if it's because we ran way too much in the 3rd and the first half of the 4th but our offense was really stagnant at that point.
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beast
13 years ago

going conservative is certainly frustrating to fans (myself included) but the name of the game is to run the clock out.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



The name of the game is football.

I'm fine with running the clock out for the win. But I don't like it when the Packers are being forced to punt the ball away while the other team is putting points up and having a chance to make a comeback.
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Stevetarded
13 years ago

Just because someone wins a Superbowl, doesn't mean he's doing things right.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Winning 13 games in a row usually means you're doing things right.
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