beast
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7 years ago
There seems to be a big difference between the Packers offense 1st half and 2nd half numbers.

1st Half
60.0% completion rate
5.7 yards per attempt
10 sacks
1 TD Passes
3 INTs
1 Rush TD
2.2 yards per rush

2nd Half
72.4 completion rate
7.7 yards per attempt
3 sacks
5 TD Passes
0 INTs
1 Rush TD
3.7 yards per rush

Cobb and Adams numbers seem somewhat even, but everyone else numbers seem to be much better in the 2nd half for some reason so far this season.

Generally speaking, the 2nd quarter is the worst and 3rd quarter is the best.
Monty is even averaging less than a yard in the 2nd quarter, while averaging 4.5 yards in the 3rd quarter.

Cobb's numbers seems better in 1st and 3rd.
Adams numbers are best in 2nd quarter.
Allison and Bennett numbers are best in the 4th quarter.

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rabidgopher04
7 years ago
The running game is pathetic no matter which half of the game!
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TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago
Beast are there numbers for Aaron? He seems like he plays his best in the 3rd quarter as well.
Zero2Cool
7 years ago
In the three games played, I don't think the defense has given up a touchdown in the second half. I wonder if anyone would credit Dom Capers for halftime adjustments?
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beast
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7 years ago

In the three games played, I don't think the defense has given up a touchdown in the second half. I wonder if anyone would credit Dom Capers for halftime adjustments?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


You're right, only Touchdown given up in the 2nd half was given up by the offense. So far the defense has given up 5 TDs total and the offense has given up 2 touchdowns total (and were lucky when a 3rd one called back by questionable flags).

Of course, the Packers have played two teams with very poor offensive lines... questions still remain what's gonna happen when they face teams with better OLs. As Packers also struggle with their OL problem.

Beast are there numbers for Aaron? He seems like he plays his best in the 3rd quarter as well.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 


NFL.com break it down by years and then quarters... and I'm mainly gonna do this based on QB rating to save time
2017: So far; 3rd best ; 2nd worst
2016: 4th best ; 3rd worst
2015: 3rd best ; 2nd worst
2014: 1st best ; 3rd worst
2013: 4th/3rd best ; 2nd worst (4th barely beat out 3rd, so I thought I'd include both)
2012: 4th/1st best ; 3rd worst (3rd was still good)
2011: 3rd best, 2nd/4th worst (2nd and 4th are very good, even though they're the worst this year)
2010: 3rd best ; 4th worst
2009: 4th best; 1st worst
2008: 2nd best; 3rd worst


So if you count them all as one (including the tied quarter year)
Best- Worst
Total
1st (2)-(1)
2nd (2)-(4)
3rd (4)-(4)
4th (4)-(2)

Results
1st Quarter is sorta the conservative quarter with the least amount of extremes either way.
2nd Quarter is Rodgers worst quarter on average
3rd Quarter is Rodgers extreme quarter as in 10 years it was either the best or worst 8 times.
4th Quarter is Rodgers best quarter on average

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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
The idea of scripting the first so many play is to see what the opposing defense will do under different looks. The idea is not to wait until 1/2 time to learn from it.
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Barfarn
7 years ago
The 1st half offensive wows are due to Rodgers not throwing with his trademarked accuracy. Even the passes completed are only occasionally perfectly placed.

Capers might be making some adjustments to help D; but the main reason the D does better in 2nd half is because the offense is more efficient, that's is fewer 3-4-5 and outs that gas the D.

As a rule GB doesn't script plays to see what the D does. They work on several specific plays during the week based on down, distance and situation. They have scouted team and already expect how they will react. During the course of running the game plan, they will undoubtedly encounter situations where the D has done something unexpected. The trick is to find out; if it was the result of a guy that goofed and it worked out, a rouse perpetrated by the DC, the DC trying not to be predictable or a fundamental change in approach. And then adjust accordingly.

The reason Belichek is so impressed with MM, he can see the brilliance in the way he adjusts to the Belichek's adjustments. Then re-adjusts on the adjusts and the re-re-adjusts.
beast
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7 years ago


I'm pretty sure that players and MM have talked about script plays for drive or two... though sometimes that can go right out the window if they get a surprise.

I think I remember some discussion having to do with reducing the numbers of scripted plays that players know about ahead of time and I want to say WR James Jones might have been involved of talked about it.

Something along the lines of in the past MM would script plays ahead of time. But they noticed that players were making a larger number of simple mental errors during the scripted plays, like drops on simple throws and other stuff. Because they were thinking too much, and not on the simple stuff, like just catch the ball.

And they came to some sort of agreement that MM would still script his plays, but only tell the players the first 5... so they wouldn't be over thinking the plays before the game.

I know that sounds a bit ridiculous but I swear I read or heard something like that.
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7 years ago
Script plays depends on field position too. In the past they had to get away from the script when they got the ball near their own end zone on consecutive possessions.
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