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get_louder_at_lambeau
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13 years ago

The guy that has shown all of them how to be a TEAM PLAYER and more importantly how to be professional is Donald Driver.

Here's a hint for all you "ass-holes" out there.

Team Chemistry and Verteran leadership is much more important than developing a #6 receiver, they are a dime a dozen.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

And here's a hint right back atcha-

Driver used to be in a similar position to where Gurley and West were this TC- a young #6 WR going into Training Camp hoping that his hard work, special teams contributions, and potential could earn him the last WR roster spot on the Packers.

Driver got lucky in that the old man and veteran leader of the group, Packer Hall of Famer Robert Brooks, who had nagging injuries that kept him from being the great receiver that he used to be, retired during Driver's first training camp.

Stupid Packers for developing that #6 WR in 1999. They should have talked Brooks into staying for one more year, and they could have had more team chemistry and veteran leadership. [aiee]

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Nonstopdrivel
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13 years ago

#32

But the self-pro-claimed "assholes of this forum" have as I predicted jumped all over the one pass that Driver did not catch. (even Aaron misses every once in awhile)

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Really? Can you provide quotes to back up this statement? I know I personally haven't mentioned it. In fact, it seems to me that it's the Driver fans who have brought up their disappointment in Driver's decreased production this year. I never brought it up until they did first.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

13 years ago

#33

And here's a hint right back atcha-

Driver used to be in a similar position to where Gurley and West were this TC- a young #6 WR going into Training Camp hoping that his special teams contributions and potential could earn him the last roster spot on the Packers.

Driver was lucky in that the old man and veteran leader of the group, Packer Hall of Famer Robert Brooks, who had nagging injuries keeping him from being the great receiver he used to be, retired during Driver's first training camp.

Stupid Packers for developing that #6 WR in 1999. They should have talked Brooks into staying for one more year, and they could have had more team chemistry and veteran leadership.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau

You are so wrong with this comparison,below is the list of Packer wr's in 1999, only Freeman would make the 2011 roster.

1. Brooks, Robert WR South Carolina 1992-98, Brooks was already gone in 1999.

Driver did come along at the right time, very weak position after Freeman, that fact enabled Driver to show the drive that he still has to make the team.

1. Arnold, Jahine WR Fresno State 1999 1
2. Bradford, Corey WR Jackson State 1998-2001 42
3. Crawford, Keith CB/WR Howard Payne 1995, 99 13
4. Driver, Donald WR Alcorn State 1999-2011 176
5. Freeman, Antonio WR Virginia Tech 1995-2001, 03 116
6. Howard, Desmond WR/KR Michigan 1996, 99 24
7. Jordan, Charles WR Long Beach City 1994-95, 99 20
8. Schroeder, Bill

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DakotaT
Select Member

13 years ago

#34

Get Louder and Lambeau is one bright Mofo. Let me tell you boys what crazy. Crazy is continuing to start the inferior receiver over better talent. It's pretty obvious Driver doesn't bring as much to the table as even Cobb anymore so his playing time needs to be reduced. And whichever one of you talked about team chemistry needs to realize what tears up a locker room in a professional sport is the guy not earning his paycheck anymore.

get_louder_at_lambeau
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13 years ago

#35

Whoa. Hold on a minute here. There are 31 other teams that would LOVE to have Sir Charles in 2012.

Check his stats. How many CBs have 3 picks and a pick 6 already? How many CBs can tackle like Sir Charles. Yes, he wasn't as good this year as last year, but he is a hell of a lot healthier than Cliffy.

Sir Charles shouldn't even be in this conversation yet.

You guys (Dakota, Get_Louder, Nerd, NSD, etc.) are nuts. You guys seem like that one movie with Farrah Fawcett in the 70s where people all got killed when they turn 30. [duh]

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer

Go back and watch Woodson on the Falcons' first series of Sunday's game, and then tell me all about his great tackling. He has two missed tackles on that drive alone. Make sure to watch him on the TD at the end of the drive too.

Unfortunately, Woodson's NOT a hell of a lot healthier than Clifton. Not before Clifton ripped his hammy the other day, anyway. They BOTH get held out for chronic injuries every single week in practice. In Woodson's case, it's a chronic foot injury. And his knee last week too, according to the injury report.

Woodson is one of the best ever to play the game, and a future Hall of Famer. He's also in the twilight of his career. It happens to the best of em.

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Zero2Cool
Elite Member

13 years ago

#36

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau

If every player that missed two tackles in a game and gave up a TD were to be forced into retirement, the NFL would have a higher turnover rate than McDonalds. The TD Woodson said he got caught peaking into the backfield. And the two missed tackles, who were they on by the way? Was it some skinny legged easy to take down guy? I don't remember.

Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

13 years ago

#37

He's also in the twilight of his career. It happens to the best of em.

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau

Would you by any chance be implying that the Packers roster of next year is going to look significantly -- and for some, uncomfortably -- different than it does this year?

get_louder_at_lambeau
Registered

13 years ago

#38

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan

Brooks retired during Training Camp of 1999. August 2, 1999. Training Camp was already underway, just like I said. Driver's first Training Camp. Here's the depth chart ahead of young Driver in Training Camp before Brooks retired-

Robert Brooks
Antonio Freeman
Bill Shroeder
Corey Bradford
Derrick Mayes
...and behind those 5... (drumroll please, for the #6 WR)... DONALD DRIVER!

And what the fuck are you even talking about saying none of them would make the 2011 roster? What the fuck does that have to do with ANYTHING? And even though it doesn't matter, you're still wrong. That was a talented WR group. Faver had over 4000 yards passing that year throwing at those guys, even without Brooks.

Brooks and Freeman are both Packer Hall of Famers, Bill Shroeder had over 1000 yards and 5 TDs in 1999, Derrick Mayes had 800 yards and 10 TDs, even Corey Bradford had 600 yards and 5 TDs.

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Nonstopdrivel
Preferred Member

13 years ago

#39

Derrick Mayes had 800 yards and 10 TDs

Originally Posted by: get_louder_at_lambeau

Holy crap! 😮

get_louder_at_lambeau
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13 years ago

#40

Would you by any chance be implying that the Packers roster of next year is going to look significantly -- and for some, uncomfortably -- different than it does this year?

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel

I'm not ready to say that Woodson won't be back. I'm still hoping he can scrape out one more good year next year. It's not a given though, and if he's still playing for the Packers PAST next year, I'll be surprised, and maybe even disappointed that they haven't replaced him by then.

Driver? I think he's gone next year. Clifton? I think he's gone next year too.

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