peteralan71
13 years ago
Starks had another good game, and he is better than Grant. Or, "Starks > Grant IMO". I'm ok with having the two headed attack for the rest of the season because once Grant's contract is up, he'll be gone, and it's never a bad idea to get what we can out of him and save some of Starks' runs for later.
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peteralan71
13 years ago

Starks is getting more carries late in games, which says a lot

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Especially since Grant is known to be such a finisher (runs better as the game goes on).
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13 years ago
I expected Starks to earn the job of getting the most carries per game and to have more yards than Grant. I thought it would take 5-6 weeks or more to get to that point. 2 weeks does not a season make but he is well on his way.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Especially since Grant is known to be such a finisher (runs better as the game goes on).

Originally Posted by: peteralan71 



That is the thing about perceptions. They are often wrong.

Grant's best quarterly per carry average comes in the second. His next best is in the 4th.

His also perceived as running into the line and not getting anything. But those runs are usually 3-4 yard runs. For a non-productive run, that is pretty good production.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago

That is the thing about perceptions. They are often wrong.

Grant's best quarterly per carry average comes in the second. His next best is in the 4th.

His also perceived as running into the line and not getting anything. But those runs are usually 3-4 yard runs. For a non-productive run, that is pretty good production.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



So, ... Ryan Grant IS better at finishing ... the half's. :)

Ryan Grant does run into his linemen often. I have the video's to prove it at home. When I say 'often', that is meant to be at times when there was a one cut option he could have avoided it. He at times runs with his head down. If he's worried about his eyes, the NFL allows a clear visor to be worn.

Before you get jumpy, I do like Ryan Grant. I'd just like to see him with his head up more often and making cuts to use his blockers, rather than trying to prison sex them.
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Stevetarded
13 years ago
I agree the best plan of action here is to run Starks into the ground early in the season even though Grant has been productive on his carries as well. Who really needs their best RB to have fresh legs for the playoffs anyways?
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

So, ... Ryan Grant IS better at finishing ... the half's. :)

Ryan Grant does run into his linemen often. I have the video's to prove it at home. When I say 'often', that is meant to be at times when there was a one cut option he could have avoided it. He at times runs with his head down. If he's worried about his eyes, the NFL allows a clear visor to be worn.

Before you get jumpy, I do like Ryan Grant. I'd just like to see him with his head up more often and making cuts to use his blockers, rather than trying to prison sex them.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The thing I was talking about is that even when he is just pushing a pile of linemen, he is still getting positive yards.

I wasn't saying he didn't do that. Just that he isn't bouncing off, landing in the backfield and losing yards.

If he goes into the line strong with his feet under him and heavy lean, it is hard to make that cut if the hole isn't where it is supposed to be. If he goes into the line under control with his feet wide and on balance to make a cut, he won't get any yards after impact.

If the hole is right were it is supposed to be, Grant blasts through for a big gain.

3-4 minimum or a couple big runs and some negatives.

I like having both options myself.

Starks and Grant gives us that.
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nerdmann
13 years ago

Call it what it is. Thinly veiled gloating over Packer not playing well.

Sounds like a Viking fan's tactic.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 




I think they're both doing well.
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buckeyepackfan
13 years ago

I agree the best plan of action here is to run Starks into the ground early in the season even though Grant has been productive on his carries as well. Who really needs their best RB to have fresh legs for the playoffs anyways?

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[-x for 🤔 ing, I like the fact that when Ryan Grant picks up 3 or 4 yds, the comments are almost always, "well he missed that cut", or "he lcould have done better". When Starks does the same thing it's "man did you see how he made something out of nothing, or "if he had some blocking he would have gotten more" The most annoying thing every week in "gameday chat" are those who have decided it doesn't matter what ryan grant does, it is never enough and some are actually hoping for him to fail. THAT IS TOTAL BULLSHIT!!!!

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Pack93z
13 years ago
It is nextguyitis.. the fact that we can call upon 2 backs bodes well for us. Last year it was Jackson that had everyone clamoring..

Grant punished people yesterday.. as did Starks.. mix them in and let them smack people in the face.


Off topic.. did anyone catch Quinn Johnson's rumble in the flat off a flare pass.. where the hell was that in GB..lol.
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