beast
13 years ago

As Nonstopdrivel mentioned, I don't get why people can NOT be upset about a slow start.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Because the Packers won...

Doesn't matter who wins the battles (at least as long as everyone says safe)... it does matter who wins the war.

Packers win = Packers fans happy...

Packers fans upset about Packers win = questions... like why?
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

why?

Originally Posted by: beast 


The answer is obvious. Because this is a team of professionals who make absurd amounts of money to play a game. Because, therefore, it should be prepared and focused for every game, regardless of the opponent. Because a sloppy game against an inferior opponent signifies a lack of preparation and/or focus -- which raises the specter that when confronted with an opponent of comparable caliber, the Packers will lose. No one is angry when the Packers are outplayed by an equal or superior opponent. It is the way the Packers unnecessarily shoot themselves in the foot that is so maddening.
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zombieslayer
13 years ago
Well, we beat the Saints and the Saints blew out da Bears. Hopefully we blow out da Bears.

Cutler got sacked 6 times today. I think heavy pressure on Cutler is the key to blowing out da Bears.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Well, we beat the Saints and the Saints blew out da Bears. Hopefully we blow out da Bears.

Cutler got sacked 6 times today. I think heavy pressure on Cutler is the key to blowing out da Bears.

Originally Posted by: zombieslayer 


I thought you beat the Bears by not giving that weak ass offense a short field.
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evad04
13 years ago

The answer is obvious. Because a sloppy game against an inferior opponent raises the specter that when confronted with an opponent of comparable caliber, the Packers will lose.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 


Well, that answer isn't obvious to me. That is, when Green Bay plays sloppily against Carolina I'm not thinking about how they might not be able to overcome against, say, the Falcons or Bears. I am thinking, "Man, I hope we come back and win this game." And if they do, then we escape with a win. And if we don't, then hopefully we win next week. In one game we might underachieve in Atlanta and lose a close game. Thankfully, we might also blow them the hell out in the playoffs.

If the basic idea is that consistency breeds success, then I'm totally on board.
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Nonstopdrivel
13 years ago

If the basic idea is that consistency breeds success, then I'm totally on board.

Originally Posted by: evad04 


I fleshed out my answer in more detail above, but yes, that is the gist. There is a saying: "Behavior predicts behavior." If they are playing inconsistently against a team they should beat, how can we be confident they will have what it takes to beat a more challenging opponent? Chances are, they will continue to play inconsistently and will continue shooting themselves in the foot with silly mistakes.
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Zero2Cool
13 years ago
Last year Packers played UP to their opponent and DOWN to their opponent. That's the specter.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

I fleshed out my answer in more detail above, but yes, that is the gist. There is a saying: "Behavior predicts behavior." If they are playing inconsistently against a team they should beat, how can we be confident they will have what it takes to beat a more challenging opponent? Chances are, they will continue to play inconsistently and will continue shooting themselves in the foot with silly mistakes.

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 


Because they beat the Saints.
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Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Zero2Cool
13 years ago

Because they beat the Saints.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 


Saints let the Packers hang around too long.
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Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Saints let the Packers hang around too long.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 


Didn't we lead that one wire to wire.

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Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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