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I missed most of the 1st Q so I missed most of the aggravation. It was apparent that with Williams out it hurt not only the secondary but the whole defense.
GB offense took a while last year to come together. May see the same thing this year too. (Despite the 42 points in the opener.)
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13 years ago

I missed most of the 1st Q so I missed most of the aggravation. It was apparent that with Williams out it hurt not only the secondary but the whole defense.
GB offense took a while last year to come together. May see the same thing this year too. (Despite the 42 points in the opener.)

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I'm not challenging your statement here. I read an article that Charles Woodson said Sunday was the first time he's played so much on the perimeter. I wonder if it was the loss of Tramon Williams that hurt the Packers or if not having Charles Woodson in his "normal" roaming area that hurt more? Then again, Charles Woodson had two interceptions and a fumble recovery.
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I'm not challenging your statement here. I read an article that Charles Woodson said Sunday was the first time he's played so much on the perimeter. I wonder if it was the loss of Tramon Williams that hurt the Packers or if not having Charles Woodson in his "normal" roaming area that hurt more? Then again, Charles Woodson had two interceptions and a fumble recovery.

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Nor would I presume to decent from your opinion. But the question becomes WHY was Charles playing out of his preferred position? It was because Williams was not on the field.

Woodson had the best of both worlds. he got beat a few times but they, for the most part, only cost FGs. And he had the turnovers that kept Carolina from scoring and let GB cash gets some points.
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13 years ago

Nor would I presume to decent from your opinion. But the question becomes WHY was Charles playing out of his preferred position? It was because Williams was not on the field.

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That's kind of ticky tack there, lol. If this, then that, if th... Packers were short Tramon Williams, they let that effect two positions.

Woodson for Williams
Bush for Woodson


I'd have rather seen Sam Shields on Steve Smith, Bush on the other guy, Lafell? and let Woodson make Cam throw errant passes or run out of the pocket.

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That's kind of ticky tack there, lol. If this, then that, if th... Packers were short Tramon Williams, they let that effect two positions.

Woodson for Williams
Bush for Woodson


I'd have rather seen Sam Shields on Steve Smith, Bush on the other guy, Lafell? and let Woodson make Cam throw errant passes or run out of the pocket.

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yep. But I did not get the call from capers. Did you?
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13 years ago

Nor would I presume to decent from your opinion. But the question becomes WHY was Charles playing out of his preferred position? It was because Williams was not on the field.

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Its simple really; Bush makes a better backup at Woodson's position (Nickle corner, Physical blitzing almost safety/lb type role, covering TE's) than he does at William's position (Cover corner). Woodson is clearly a better cover corner than Bush is, while Bush play's Woodson's position better than any other on the field.

But I too would have liked to see Shields, with some safety help, on smith.

Edit: I think I misread your post, I think we're agreeing here but I've written my post as if it was contrary to your opinion.
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13 years ago

yep. But I did not get the call from capers. Did you?

Originally Posted by: wpr 


Yes sir, I did. And his response was "I've got a Super Bowl ring, you don't, I'm doing the opposite of what you say".

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BTW, I was saying what I preferred to have seen. I didn't say I was making the decisions. That assumption wasn't necessary.



Its simple really; Bush makes a better backup at Woodson's position (Nickle corner, Physical blitzing almost safety/lb type role, covering TE's) than he does at William's position (Cover corner). Woodson is clearly a better cover corner than Bush is, while Bush play's Woodson's position better than any other on the field.

But I too would have liked to see Shields, with some safety help, on smith.

Edit: I think I misread your post, I think we're agreeing here but I've written my post as if it was contrary to your opinion.

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You are correct, Bush can replace a blitzing Nickel position better than CB. I'm just saying I'd like to have seen it how I laid it out. It's Week 2, get Sam Shields more experience against a top ~10 WR and see what he can do with it. Although, Jarrett Bush probably would have gotten torched lol.
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BTW, I was saying what I preferred to have seen. I didn't say I was making the decisions. That assumption wasn't necessary.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I know.
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13 years ago
An ugly win is better than a pretty loss or moral victory anytime.

I would sooner they have their "bad games" now rather, against weaker competition, than the end of the season. They should motivated to get it together this weekend if for no other reason than it's "da Bears". I was glad to see them hold Tramon out, this week is more important.
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