Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

Now there is an obscure allusion. You really are a dork, you know that?[grin1]

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 


Is that where those dogs are from? Weimaraners?
I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
Dexter_Sinister
13 years ago

For every Aikman that develops under fire.. there 2 or 3 QB's that melt because they were inserted in before they were ready.

IMO.. the greater chance of success comes from allowing a young QB to develop under the tutelage of another.. then excel when ready. Case in point.. Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers. Smith has been brow beat into a shell of the QB coming out of Utah.. while Rodgers has prospered being allowed to develop behind another. Now.. we can't say that is the only aspect that determines.. but I think it increased the probability that a young player will develop and prosper.

Confidence plays such a vital role, IMO, that you preserve that until they are ready to perform.

After watch Ponder on the roller coaster at FSU.. he isn't ready.. honestly I think he was a reach where they drafted him. Tell will tell that story though.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 



OK, you didn't like my humorous thought. Try a straight one and see if it works better.

Ponder had one of if not the best O-lines in college football. Going from that to the broken down and washed up never beens that populate the Vikings line wold be hazardous to his health. But I still would like to see the Vikings try it.

Seeing a Vikings QB fail miserably (again) would be fine entertainment.


I want to go out like my Grandpa did. Peacefully in his sleep.
Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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13 years ago
LOL.. yep apparently missed the satire in the post.. my bad.

Personally.. with the line in taters.. it matters little whom the Vikes start.. personally for us I think McNabb is the best option.. a couple more hits and he will start winging that shit all over the place..

Either way.. the Vikes are paying for the Allen and Favre experience now.. Allen through picks given up and Favre in both elements of time lost and a boatload of cash spent for a franchise in the red yearly.. you know that is subsidized by the league. 🙂
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dfosterf
13 years ago

Since I'm one of those McNabb dislikers, let me try and explain why.

It's basically an accumulated belief that he's insincere, a manipulator, an image-mongerer. I simply can't take anything he says as un-calculated. And I think he's a whiner. I just wouldn't trust him with a Weimar mark. He strikes me as insincere as a career politician, someone who says in public what he thinks will help his image most, while saying and doing exactly the opposite in private.

Now, be clear. I have no personal experience with him. I've never met the man, never talked with him or people who know and deal with him. And probably never will. So I have no basis save my own observational skills as a TV watcher and my "gut". I'm not saying he's all of these things in reality. I'm not saying he is any of these things in reality. I can't.

It's just what I feel.

Right or wrong, I "dislike" (I won't use the word "hate", but I do dislike) athletes who I perceive of low character, and among the character flaws I dislike most are those of image-mongering and general suckupery. And, right or wrong, that's the labels I put on McNabb.

Originally Posted by: Wade 




You have to know by now that I'm at least as cynical as you. I live close enough to Philly that I get all the media.

I disagree.

I say he's a class act that has been through hell. I also agreed with Rush Limbaugh (at the time), and still do.

There's a dichotomy for you, lol

This fucker will beat us. He will have the game of his life against us. He may possibly suck against EVERYONE ELSE, but the fucker will beat US... when it MOST MATTERS- this is my personal, hellish destiny...

...And tell Jeremy to go tell those morons at PPO that their LINE IS AS SUCKY AS I SAID IT WOULD BE, and that is why they are FUCKED...not McNabb,

FIX YOUR LINE OR DIE, especially in the NFC North.

Christ, I get emotional about the complete stupidity of our RIVALS, lol

Donovan gets to go from one shit-box offensive line to the next, to the next, etc.

...And catches blame for all of it. I'm STILL not buying, sorry, AND I DON'T EVEN LIKE HIM, but defend him, semi-intellectually.
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13 years ago

Now there is an obscure allusion. You really are a dork, you know that?[grin1]

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 



Yep.

(of course the fact that the allusion is obscure is more than a little depressing)

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
Wade
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13 years ago

You have to know by now that I'm at least as cynical as you. I live close enough to Philly that I get all the media.

I disagree.

I say he's a class act that has been through hell.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



As I said, it's just how I feel. I make no claim that my feeling is based in evidence.

Some times I just need to be a petty, knee-jerk irrational asshole. :)


And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
zombieslayer
13 years ago
Oh. Well, I was just talking about his abilities, not his character.
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dfosterf
13 years ago
"Some times I just need to be a petty, knee-jerk irrational asshole. :)"

That is essentialy how I go through life, but on a full-time basis, lol



Formo
13 years ago

...And tell Jeremy to go tell those morons at PPO that their LINE IS AS SUCKY AS I SAID IT WOULD BE, and that is why they are FUCKED...not McNabb,

FIX YOUR LINE OR DIE, especially in the NFC North.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 



Fair enough. But you must have forgot that the Vikings are in a transition phase when it comes to offensive scheme, which also includes the OL scheme. Oh, this is all coming off of a lockout where players weren't given a playbook until Training Camp, which was shortened. Which means there were ZERO OTAs where the current patchwork OL members would have normally started getting their chemistry started.

I'm not saying the Vikings OL will be fixed by the end of the year... But I am saying they are certainly still in an adjustment phase.

Give them time before declaring them broke. That's all.
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DakotaT
13 years ago

Fair enough. But you must have forgot that the Vikings are in a transition phase when it comes to offensive scheme, which also includes the OL scheme. Oh, this is all coming off of a lockout where players weren't given a playbook until Training Camp, which was shortened. Which means there were ZERO OTAs where the current patchwork OL members would have normally started getting their chemistry started.

I'm not saying the Vikings OL will be fixed by the end of the year... But I am saying they are certainly still in an adjustment phase.

Give them time before declaring them broke. That's all.

Originally Posted by: Formo 




Formo, you guys are in rebuild mode. But instead of tearing it down like you, management brings in a big name quarterback to try and hold interest. But said quarterback has been a shell of his former self for 3 years now. To complicate things more there is the whole stadium clusterfuck to deal with. Most people don't expect much from the Vikings this season, but I'm sure they'll bring whatever A game they have for the Packers.
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