Now there is an obscure allusion. You really are a dork, you know that?[grin1]

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 

For every Aikman that develops under fire.. there 2 or 3 QB's that melt because they were inserted in before they were ready.

IMO.. the greater chance of success comes from allowing a young QB to develop under the tutelage of another.. then excel when ready. Case in point.. Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers. Smith has been brow beat into a shell of the QB coming out of Utah.. while Rodgers has prospered being allowed to develop behind another. Now.. we can't say that is the only aspect that determines.. but I think it increased the probability that a young player will develop and prosper.

Confidence plays such a vital role, IMO, that you preserve that until they are ready to perform.

After watch Ponder on the roller coaster at FSU.. he isn't ready.. honestly I think he was a reach where they drafted him. Tell will tell that story though.

Originally Posted by: Pack93z 

Since I'm one of those McNabb dislikers, let me try and explain why.

It's basically an accumulated belief that he's insincere, a manipulator, an image-mongerer. I simply can't take anything he says as un-calculated. And I think he's a whiner. I just wouldn't trust him with a Weimar mark. He strikes me as insincere as a career politician, someone who says in public what he thinks will help his image most, while saying and doing exactly the opposite in private.

Now, be clear. I have no personal experience with him. I've never met the man, never talked with him or people who know and deal with him. And probably never will. So I have no basis save my own observational skills as a TV watcher and my "gut". I'm not saying he's all of these things in reality. I'm not saying he is any of these things in reality. I can't.

It's just what I feel.

Right or wrong, I "dislike" (I won't use the word "hate", but I do dislike) athletes who I perceive of low character, and among the character flaws I dislike most are those of image-mongering and general suckupery. And, right or wrong, that's the labels I put on McNabb.

Originally Posted by: Wade 

Now there is an obscure allusion. You really are a dork, you know that?[grin1]

Originally Posted by: Nonstopdrivel 

You have to know by now that I'm at least as cynical as you. I live close enough to Philly that I get all the media.

I disagree.

I say he's a class act that has been through hell.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

...And tell Jeremy to go tell those morons at PPO that their LINE IS AS SUCKY AS I SAID IT WOULD BE, and that is why they are FUCKED...not McNabb,

FIX YOUR LINE OR DIE, especially in the NFC North.

Originally Posted by: dfosterf 

Fair enough. But you must have forgot that the Vikings are in a transition phase when it comes to offensive scheme, which also includes the OL scheme. Oh, this is all coming off of a lockout where players weren't given a playbook until Training Camp, which was shortened. Which means there were ZERO OTAs where the current patchwork OL members would have normally started getting their chemistry started.

I'm not saying the Vikings OL will be fixed by the end of the year... But I am saying they are certainly still in an adjustment phase.

Give them time before declaring them broke. That's all.

Originally Posted by: Formo